Ok, not some Al-Qaeda or Islamic terrorist plot, but what appears to be a homegrown nut from New Jersey. Police arrest N.J. man who allegedly threatened Amtrak station BRATTLEBORO, Vt. --A New Jersey man was arrested Wednesday after his mother reported to his hometown police that he had made threats against an Amtrak station in Brattleboro. Vermont State Police and Brattleboro police arrested Christopher R. Greene, 41, of Montclair, N.J. He was being held at the state prison in Springfield awaiting a hearing on whether he should be extradited to New Jersey to face charges. Man, he got turned in by his mom! Not exactly a criminal mastermind.
Actually DoctorD you're not far off on this assessment! Liberal Leahy, Socialist Sanders, Out-To-Lunch Dean, and Turncoat Independant Jeffords make the Green Mountain politicians a motley lot hardly resistant to terror attacks; yet that is not all. Vermont's two northern border crossings: One at Highgate and the other at Derby Line, are hardly resistant to undetected crossings, as indeed most of its northern wooded border is. Some stretches of the state's border is merely barb-wire along Canada/VT crossing near the two northern lake areas! VT's progressive socialist political climate make it an ideal breeding ground for terrorism!
I was speaking just of VT here combined with its very progressive liberal politics... To a certain extent, yes you are right Dante, but as far as New England goes most of upper New York State, New Hampshire and Maine have been very proactive securing their border areas since 09/11/01 with heavy fencing, strip clear cutting, and frequent Customs & Immigration (Border Patrols) inspections, while VT lags behind in this respect, as many have noted. I am not sure why...I was up there just a short time ago, along Lake Memphramagog in the Town of Derby Line... it's pretty dismal.... border is largely unsecured!
Here I was, thinking the thread title meant that lift ticket prices for Killington had been announced.
I used to vacation there. They had the best security of all: the guys at the border knew most of the inhabitants of Derby Line VT and Rock Island, PQ. But yeah, big liberal hotbed. So the Border Patrol folks are probably undercover agents of the Billary - Ted Kennedy - Barbara Streisand triumvrate, seeing as they haven't executed the entire town's population.
Well, duh! They're clearly devoting their attention to the more important borders - the ones that terrorists from New Jersey might have to cross. And to quote a recent BS post, Vermont has "a Gold Record thus far: 0 attacks" Anyway, as much as I laud catching this domestic terrorist, shouldn't they be chasing eco-terrorists instead? After all, we all know that eco-terrorists are the #1 terrorist threat to America.
I'm sorry, but the GREAT majority of NY's border with Canada is NOT as safe as you're making it. There are miles upon miles a person can enter with never seeing another soul.
So since your such an expert on our state, and how we're such a terrorist breeding ground because of our openminded political ideals.... other than some dufus from Jersey, what are your other examples for us? And from your other post, can sight your examples of Maine and New Hampshire securing their border better? As far as I know, thats a federal issue, and you pals in power now would need to lead the charge putting up razor-wire. ITN - stop embarrassing yourself, by trying to tell us how to live up here. If you dont like our state, you really dont need to visit either.
Never said that... you did... Make that empty mind liberal progressive and you got it nailed! And such progressive areas fuel terrorism! Case in point: France! Actually it is a state-by-state issue under Federal guidance; check your state Constitution. This administration has utilized that too, but more border guards are found to be more useful! Freedom is unique in the respect that it allows interstate commerce and travel; anyone at all can come and go... Since VT has attracted so many liberal college flatlanders who unfortunately stay well beyond their daddy's monthly stipend check, and adopted such a liberal/progressive culture, VT opens itself up to scrutiny and criticism... With any luck at all Governor Douglas can return the state to some normalcy as it was under Richard Snelling and prior...the radicalism and leftism VT bespeaks needs to be cleared out in preference to its conservative Chester Arthur heritage.... for security as well as for peace of mind.
I say again... if you dont like our politics, why do you visit? As one of our more crass bumper stickers says ... 'Welcome to Vermont, Now Go Home.' How about that link on border security upgrades? And proof that as a 'liberalist hotbed' we are fostering terrorism with a grand total of 0 terrorist hits (not including a stooge from Jersey)? France is all you've got? And how many terrorist hits have they had in recent history? Everyone notice how ITN feels like he got one up on me, but avoided all the tough questions.. totally unlike him.... BTW, dont try to school me on freedom... Vermont's one of the few states left that actually believes in such a crazy ideals. Live and let live is a way of life here, and was even as the state's presidential vote was generally Repub fifty years ago. While your pals in Congress are cow-towing to the administration, taking your freedoms away, our representation is one of the few left actually questioning and challenging your fantastic ideas like checking my library habits, instead of securing the ports. And in response to what you think is an awesome sig.... Guns dont kill people, electrical chairs and lethal injections do. Thats the conservative way of respecting life huh?
Of course you didn't say that in those words. You did however go into pretty deep detail on the situation of the borders in that state, and pretty much lump-sum everyone in the state into the "ultra-liberal-progressive" category. If you're going to throw out "facts" on a topic and expect to be believed, you should be prepared to be sarcastically called an "expert".
Did you know that a former governor of Vermont was once rated the Most Fiscally Conservative Governor by the Cato Institute?
Alas, it would appear that is not the case: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/14/opinion/opinionspecial/14thu1.html This was a sad week for the war on terror. The Senate voted, disgracefully, to shift homeland security money from high-risk areas to low-risk ones—a step that is likely to mean less money to defend New York and California against terrorism and more for states like Wyoming. Before the vote, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff made a powerful appeal to the senators to distribute the money based on risk. But the Senate, led by Susan Collins, a Maine Republican, and other small-state representatives, put political pork ahead of national security. Disclaimer - yes, I realize this is an editorial opinion on the effects of the underlying truth, which is that "The Senate voted...to shift homeland security money from high-risk areas to low-risk ones"
Your kidding! Conservative fiscally? Thats Inconceivable! Could this be the same guy that the Repubs and the media distorted into the wacky, prickly liberal? The current governor is out of the mold of conservative-wanna-be's that will tow the party line even if they are moderates at heart. He even got the 'once every-four year' pat on the butt from the VP Dick, for the seal of approval that all the narrowminded-righties (thats what Im going to start calling them for our pal ITN) need -- (the proof is ITN falling all over himself about him in a previous post). They call him Governor Sissor-hands for all the cost cutting he's tried to do, while being a total whore to big business that Vermonters have always been luke-warm about. Lets face it- our economy is based on tourism, farming and smaller scale, independant businesses -- all which he's forgotten. So even in Vermont, Repubs are of the party mold, which is 'speak out of both sides of your mouth, but have a smile while repeating it ad-nauseam'. So we're fiscally back to where we were before that 'out-of-control moon-bat liberal' got things under control.. overall pretty good, but headed in the wrong direction.