Vieira to NYCFC is offical now, NOW MAKE PLAYOFFS OR ELSE!!

Discussion in 'New York City FC' started by DanGerman, Nov 9, 2015.

  1. DanGerman

    DanGerman Member+

    Aug 28, 2014
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  2. whill4

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    Sep 11, 2011
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    This just makes me further believe that Kreis was mainly fired so they could bring in their shill as practice before he takes over at Man City.

    Absolute disgrace.
     
  3. Ferdinand Cesarano

    NYCFC
    Sep 21, 2005
    New York City
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Yow. I thought that Vieira had denied these rumours.

    While no one doubts Vieira's ability to command respect and to communicate with players, it's the understanding of MLS player-acquisition rules that is likely to bedevil him -- or any other foreign coach, be it Ancelotti, Mourinho, Guardiola, or whomever you'd like to name.

    Unless the team is going to appoint an experienced MLS executive to a GM-type role overseeing player acquisition, the hiring of Vieira as manager is extremely risky.

    I was in favour of Kreis's sacking; but this hiring puts that move in a new light.
     
  4. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
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  5. DanGerman

    DanGerman Member+

    Aug 28, 2014
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    United States
    This is why I wasn't in favor of the move. I read that the Nemec, Calle, and Mendoza signings were all Reyna's moves. Kreis asked for a certain type of player and all he got was crap. I'm really not loving this move but I'll wait until next season is over before I slam this move.
     
  6. whill4

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    United States
    I just fail to see what the long term goal is. At least two of our DP's won't make it another two years. Our new coach is only here just to get his feet wet before going back to the mothership. And we bring these MCFC loans who don't stay more than a season.

    There's no longevity in this project at all. In two years we will just be starting all over again.
     
  7. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
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    I mean - to be fair, Red Bull went through the same growing pains. AND it was kinda important to bring in big names for the debut season. As it evolves, priorities hopefully will change.
     
  8. the5timechamp

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    Nov 3, 2012
    U sure hes here to coach.. Given his age he is within playing age for this club
     
  9. DanGerman

    DanGerman Member+

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    New York City FC
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    United States
    This and the fact that IF Vieira is a success and that's a big if there's no guarantee he takes over at Man City. I keep hearing they're going to sign Pep from Bayern and if they do he'll be there for at least 2 to 3 years. In that time It would take Vieira winning an MLS cup or two and putting out a good team all the way for Man City to even think about putting him anywhere near the first team as head coach. I think more then likely he'll be fired here and just made the youth coach all over again.
     
  10. DanGerman

    DanGerman Member+

    Aug 28, 2014
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    United States
    He'd play better defense then Pirlo I'll tell you that much. :)
     
  11. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

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    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
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    It is quite amazing how rarely coaches from outside North America last more than a couple of seasons


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  12. Fiosfan

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    #12 Fiosfan, Nov 9, 2015
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2015
    people are writing him off before he even put the whistle in his mouth in the training ground.
     
  13. Fiosfan

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  14. Fiosfan

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  15. SoccerPrime

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    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
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    Most of the successful ones were MLS or NASL players before coaching in MLS. I think that's a different group than MLS virgins like Vieira.
     
  16. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
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    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
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    Viera should have a chat with Owen Coyle about the lessons he's learned since taking over at Dynamo.
     

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