Victoria St.. Will it provide the impetus..

Discussion in 'MLS: Expansion' started by Wolves_67, Jan 8, 2003.

  1. Wolves_67

    Wolves_67 Member

    Oct 27, 2002
    Pasadena, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe I'm an optimist, but I have a feeling that the new stadium in LA, with all the publicity it will be getting, and planned TV time, it will end up being the thing that gets the other project finally going and even increase the momentum for other projects.
    I know some will say that Columbus Crew Stadium didn't seem to help in the current problems but this stadium is a totally different thing. I don't think I need to add all the details on that. CCS is showing that a SSS can bring a team much closer to the black finacially. People in the sport don't need to be sold on that, of course.
    Victoria Street may swing votes and get things going just on jealousy, perhaps.
    I just expect lots of good news on the stadium front next year. Am I too optimistic in the current economic climate?
    Any thoughts?
     
  2. NACIONAL

    NACIONAL New Member

    Dec 31, 2001
    Medellin, Colombia
    i think that the stadium will give a good image to the outsiders of the sports.... but....

    i have some fear because CCS and Galaxy's one are founded privately, well i fear that some people in the gov thinks that every stadium for soccer should be privatel founded.
     
  3. K.P.

    K.P. Member

    Mar 18, 2001
    Philly
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree with your optimism, Wolves_67.
    As for Victoria Street, I was under the impression it is actually a public-private partnership between AEG and the university.
     
  4. Wolves_67

    Wolves_67 Member

    Oct 27, 2002
    Pasadena, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes that's true but it that won't hurt too much when others deciding on building have it in their minds.
    And it may also help in private situations too.. I'm very much aware of how difficult it is to get public funding. But remember also, these stadiums are not the giant NFL type projects either.
     
  5. You guys are right....CCS showed that a SSS could go up. It was spartan and privately funded. Victoria Street will show that a plush stadium is worth the cost (plusher then CCS) and that a big name like Home Depot doesnt mind throwin in money to slap their name on it (granted its for the whole complex, HD is the olympic sponsor, yada yada yada...their name's on our stadium, period.) AND, the public will pay for it. I guarantee that..

    1) Victoria Street raises Galaxy attendence a tad
    2) The Galaxy turns a profit in their first or 2nd year at the new stadium
    3) The businesses around Cal St-Dom Hills sees a drastic increase and the stadium helps generate a lot of new business in the area...

    then the NJ state legislature knows that a SSS and these 18k or so people have buying power to support a stadium and the neighborhood to be built around it. Lets face it, Harrison is still a huge gamble. We're just not talking a stadium but almost a mini town, like a 2nd downtown Harrison being built from scratch (at least this is what the project seems like). At least I havent heard that CCS has greatly boosted business in the vicinity of the fair grounds (someone please enlighten me if i am wrong) So IMHO, I think the success of Victoria Street will have a lot to do with future SSS in this country.
     
  6. dsylvest

    dsylvest Member

    Jan 18, 1999
    DC
    Having the stadium in our nation's media capital will really help...the cali folks will hopefully spread the word through multiple media about how great it is to attend a home match with a great crowd in a quality venue, and the rest of the country will follow suit.

    now if the metros would get their heads out of their asses and make something happen, we'd have both coasts covered.
     
  7. snowfx2

    snowfx2 New Member

    Jul 28, 2001
    so cal
    It is a public-private partnership, but AEG is paying for everything being built, CSUDH is leasing the land to AEG.
     
  8. Wallydrag

    Wallydrag BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 24, 2002
    Oklahoma City
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This would be very similar to the stadium plan in Oklahoma/OKC.

    It would be a public/private deal with a university and the city public school system.

    It's a very nice stadium design, and IMO better than Victoria Street if built.

    I don't know if any of you have seen it.

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    Seating is 20k-25k initially with abilty to expand I believe. Sorry these pictures are of the best quality. They're picture of pictures.
     
  9. Wallydrag

    Wallydrag BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 24, 2002
    Oklahoma City
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. Wolves_67

    Wolves_67 Member

    Oct 27, 2002
    Pasadena, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow! That looks great! Has real style to it.
    If they okay that I say give them a team right away..
    Where is it as far as getting approval? I assume those plans are pending granting of a franchise or go along with it..
    Hence the stadium name on the plans.. MLS Stadium..
     
  11. Rocket

    Rocket Member

    Aug 29, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I noticed the "Edmond, Oklahoma" on it as well.

    Is this what the Univ. of Central Oklahoma's stadium is supposed to look like after remodeling/expansion?
     
  12. Wallydrag

    Wallydrag BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 24, 2002
    Oklahoma City
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes and no. The stadium that is currently on the site is barely nothing at present. It's like seating on one side of the field and grass hills around the other three sides. If/when this stadium is built the existing stadium, if I'm correct, will be torn down and this new stadium erected in its place.
     
  13. The Voice of Reason!

    Jan 6, 2002
    Wethersfield CT
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As far as the comment about "the current econemy" or whatever. well right now is when building is best. typical down econemys are great times for building companies. intrest rates are low, and labor is readily available.
     
  14. Wolves_67

    Wolves_67 Member

    Oct 27, 2002
    Pasadena, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's a very good and encouraging point.
    They could sure use some of that thinking in Dallas right now!
     

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