Victims of a Campaign- The Other Footy Teams Thread

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by GunneRy, Mar 25, 2015.

  1. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    IMO the big problem with free kicks in rugby vs football is that in football the free kick is often inferior to the situation you had on the field, whereas in Rugby you can use it to gain field position, or 3 points. Also in Rugby we stamped out rotational fouling whereas in football each player has a yellow card to give.

    This leads to silly situations like where a defender can do a "tactical foul" on halfway - take a yellow, yet a strong scoring opportunity is lost.

    Its why IMO football needs a sinbin for repeated fouling or a tactical foul.
     
  2. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
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    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Graham Norton?
     
  3. maskito

    maskito Member+

    Arsenal
    Jan 14, 2006
    Nashville
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This.
    I don't know if any indoor soccer leagues still exist, but this was something they implemented 20-30 years ago when I watched since most fields were converted hockey rinks.
     
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  4. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I really think so much of this stuff is about on-field incentives.

    In Rugby, getting the restart from an infringement has very high value, either as a scoring opportunity, or to relieve defensive pressure. So therefore the contest for the ball is intense.

    If you can force the defending team to make a "foul" you can get 3 points. Or if thru intense defensive pressure, you can force them to give up an "attacking foul", you can gain field position and switch back on to attack.

    I think the big problem in football is that the team without the ball can resort to pretty persistent fouling high up the pitch (Pep) or tactical fouling, with no real downside.

    If a tactical foul drew a 15min sin bin - then there is a tradeoff. Ditto rotational fouling would draw a warning, and then a 15min bin.

    Each player should not be able to give a yellow. But also red is only for very serious infringement or dangerous play. You can't get a red by accumulation.
     
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  5. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tactical/rotational fouling is definitely something they should work on. Haven't given potential solutions a lot of thought, but in basketball (which I used to follow) they have team fouls and when you're over the limit the other team gets an advantage at the foul line for the remainder of the period(?). Could soccer have something similar? But what would be the "penalty" for being over the limit? A player to the sin-bin? (but which player?) An immediate free kick from anywhere outside the box of your choosing? Or ??
     
  6. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    i mean, ours would just be full and man united's would be collecting dush?
     
  7. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    y'know what, though? i'll accept tactical foul and sin bin all day if they would actually implement a damn medical bay.

    you want to go writhing on the floor like you fractured a spleen? we should see to you properly in the medical bay, see you in 10 minutes. and, hopefully, ANY ability to retroactively punish assholes who pretend injuries to draw a card - like that asshat lamela.
     
  8. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    What are the current rules on concussion?
     
  9. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    as far as i can tell . . . . if the injury looks like head injury, referee stops play?
     
  10. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    Can anyone tell me which part of Mane was offside for the disallowed goal?
     
  11. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    His soul, maybe his aura. Certainly not any part of his physical body.
     
  12. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    Theo had a nice game, helping deny Chelsea full points.
     
  13. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Glad for Theo.

    Just glanced at the stats for this game. Not a good read for Chelsea.

    And always nice to see 3 direct competitors of ours dropping points.

    Now it’s just up to us!

    Signing off now.
     
  14. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    the play van dijk was hurt on . . . that offside call felt shoddy to me. and i agree with announcer fella, pickford's challenge felt like it should have been a red.
     
  15. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    what a bullshit offside that was.
     
  16. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    Had a real good look late to get the winner and shanked the shot.
     
  17. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    Still had a good game, 5 key passes and the assist on the goal that tied the game.
     
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  18. maskito

    maskito Member+

    Arsenal
    Jan 14, 2006
    Nashville
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Holy smokes. Incredible end to the Spuds - West Ham game. Lanzini with a laser to the upper right on the last kick in stoppage time to tie it 3-3
     
  19. maskito

    maskito Member+

    Arsenal
    Jan 14, 2006
    Nashville
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Worth adding that Spuds gave up 3 goals in last 8 mins and drop 2 points. Jose is not happy. High comedy.
     
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  20. super gooner

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    Arsenal
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  21. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And didn't our women give them a good bashing today?
     
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  22. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

    Arsenal
    May 10, 2006
    Cincinnati, OH
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It was no 5-2...but it’ll suffice.

    Show Spoiler
    It was 6-1.
     
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  23. gunner7

    gunner7 Member+

    Jul 27, 2008
    Sunshine California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lol I look at the scoreline this morning and saw 3-0 then workout and when I check the scoreline again I laughed so loud
     
  24. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    holy shit, what a strike that was from lanzini. that shit was pretty*.

    *only "pretty" if not against us. EXTRA "pretty" when against spuds.

    they went up 3-0 in, like, 16 minutes and gave up 3 in last 8. that was crazy.

    kane got really unlucky on that strike with his left foot to hit the post.
     
  25. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    in the villa/leicester game, konsa had a nearly free header off set piece and missed. no problem.

    . . . until you look at replay and defender just about had his shorts off. i hate that referee doesn't even bother looking at that.
     

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