Victims of a Campaign- The Other Footy Teams Thread

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by GunneRy, Mar 25, 2015.

  1. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    To be fair it was already ending when Jose first arrived with his aggressive transitional play
     
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  2. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    FACTS
     
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  3. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    The thing about pressing, or any of this stuff that is happening now it was always present, things just spread more now and people are more aware. We never had this much access to football being played globally.

    People were flabbergasted when Conte won with 3 at the back. Brasil played the same formation in 2002. People are giddy about Gegenpressing, Sacchi did that from the 87 season on. Nothing new under the sun, except online people finding about stuff they never knew.
     
  4. footykid

    footykid Member+

    Jan 10, 2005
    Mississauga, Ont
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    I think you are somewhat under estimating how smart these kids are man.

    They are reading first touch and body positions, running positions etc at like 11/12 and running defensive system based on it.

    Not to talk too much shit about the old days, but I don't see much space for 40 yard driven diagonals that Pires used to be able to play to Ljungberg these days.

    Hell even our 4-4 with Liverpool it's insane the level space that was available like semi-pro levels of space.

    We regularly see 5v5s in the space between the edge of the 18 yard box and the the side of the pitch.

    Imo I think we are waiting for the next systemic solution and until then we are back to long ball percentage play and tactical tweeks. I'm not optimistic positional play is basically just geometry and it seems like every sport has just kinda ended up with the 4 Fs, Find, Fix, Finish and Follow-up.
     
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  5. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, Soton have been spying on their opponents? Did I get that right? (I don't feel like reading articles)
     
  6. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    It’s been around a long time, I ran into at the youth level 30 years ago and I’m certain it’s been around much longer than that, but when you bring on two more sets of fresh legs the press becomes more effective and teams can often press effectively for an entire game.
     
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  7. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I agree

    We don’t progress the ball quick enough through the lines

    Only Miles seems to have that in our team
     
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  8. AmericanGunner

    Sep 7, 2003
    U.S.A.
    The two clubs that pretty much bought their trophies (City and Chelsea) seem to be the one in most trouble. The ones who made their money organically, based on their history, merchandizing, etc (Arsenal, Liverpool, Man Utd) are all surviving okay.

    The bought ones take short cuts it seems. Get good quick.
     
  9. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I figured it's all different varieties of blood money at this point.
     
  10. TurdFerguson

    TurdFerguson Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jan 11, 2013
     
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  11. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    We are owned by a US Oligarch. There is nothing organic about us now. Well run sure.
     
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  12. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Tanzania
    The issue but I am hopeful is when Saka, Kai and MO came back, add Trossard to the mix, we all just asked for a strong end to the season and all is forgiven. They have each contributed individually but not together at the same time. Saka vs Fulham & Athletico, MO vs WHU etc.

    It's like every game has a different hero and I am happy we get the points but it is really concerning.

    The league is ours but this will pose questions at the UCL final vs a multi-faceted PSG.
     
  13. 6 ft. Leprechaun

    Dec 9, 2003
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is not an area that I'm very well-versed so I'm truly curious, how has Kroenke used his wealth to significantly influence the US gov?
     
  14. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    Nah not at all, one of my friends coaches MLS NEXT we talk all the time. I'm not a nostalgia guy. The game is programmed and more athletic. They just don't teach kids to make in game decisions on their own and that's fine Im sure something will happen but what that is who knows.
     
  15. AEAAFC96

    AEAAFC96 Member+

    Mar 27, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ouch, at best I see it's going to be a points deduction if they win the final. At worst, Middlesborough instead of Soton in the final?
     
  16. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Better figure this out quickly before the Boro players go on holiday.
     
  17. AEAAFC96

    AEAAFC96 Member+

    Mar 27, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just read the article on BBC Sport and I'd say, if they win, a -8 points deduction to start the PL.
     
  18. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    There are pictures of the spy, its some dude with an iPhone.

    "Ran with all of his equipment" hahahahahahahaha
     
  19. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Imagine if they’d sold their womens team to themselves to balance the books.
     
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  20. NorthBank

    NorthBank Moderator
    Staff Member

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It'll make a travesty of the playoffs. Soton (if guilty) shouldn't really be allowed to be promoted. But it's coming so late in the season they probably can't deal with the punishment quickly enough.
     
  21. NorthBank

    NorthBank Moderator
    Staff Member

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Shitty 2-0 Palace at 40'

    We might need the visitors to keep their cool, and not let it get much worse.
     
  22. 6 ft. Leprechaun

    Dec 9, 2003
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Palace can't contain that city lineup, that has hardly any defense, they've fallen well below where they used to be.
     
  23. AEAAFC96

    AEAAFC96 Member+

    Mar 27, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The EFL's caught between a rock and a hard place here. If they don't allow Soton to be promoted, a lawsuit might fly (though justified they may be). Then again, even if they ask the PL to deduct points off of them if they were promoted, Middlesborough might sue anyway.
     
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  24. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    They're mailing it in.

    We need to defenestrate Burnley on Monday.
     
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  25. AEAAFC96

    AEAAFC96 Member+

    Mar 27, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As stated on the BBC page: Those who were on the field tonight just gave Glasner a reason to keep them out of the UECL final.
     

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