Victims of a Campaign- The Other Footy Teams Thread

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by GunneRy, Mar 25, 2015.

  1. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    “It’s the weakest Premier League in ages, no one’s good, blah blah blah”

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    5 of the top 8 in the Champions League, no one lower than 11th.
     
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  2. ArsenalJake

    ArsenalJake Member+

    Feb 11, 2013
    Charlotte
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the Champions League Table clearly shows that the Premier League is tops as far as quality of the league.

    If there are pundits out there saying anything like what you "quoted" above, I haven't heard it.

    But I don't consume much content about these sorts of things. The extent of my European football punditry consumption is limited to Kate, Tierry, Jamie, Big Meeks, and Schmeichel senior.
     
  3. Plumstead Common

    Arsenal
    Dec 27, 2024
    Whoever thinks that epl is not super league is clearly not paying attention
    Last nights game featured inter who is 3 pts clear in serie a … and honestly don’t think they are better than brentford
     
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  4. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    The Arsenal FC
    Jun 16, 1999
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In fairness, weren't they missing a few key players---Dumfries being one?
     
  5. Plumstead Common

    Arsenal
    Dec 27, 2024
    Yes but they are not world beaters
    The squad is slow and old. Serie a has dropped off considerably.
     
  6. maskito

    maskito Member+

    Arsenal
    Jan 14, 2006
    Nashville
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’m definitely seeing and hearing it.

    It’s mostly coming from our Prem rivals and pundits (primarily fan content creators and Talksport - especially Liverpool fans) who are moving away from the “Arsenal are bottlers” attacks and now saying “the league is weak” to diminish our credentials.

    Terry Flowers routinely identifies this nonsense and directly calls it out
     
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  7. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    The Arsenal FC
    Jun 16, 1999
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sure. I just think they're still probably better than Brentford.
     
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  8. wanye_stirrear

    wanye_stirrear Member+

    Sep 19, 2002
    Maryland
    That same team was in the CL final last year. They’d finish in the top 4-5 in the Premier League.
     
  9. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seeing some claims that Rodri is being investigated for match fixing / betting over his 2 yellows in under a min. Supposedly there were few bets on him being sent off placed in his home town.
     
  10. AmericanGunner

    Sep 7, 2003
    U.S.A.
    Put it this way, I'd prefer Inter over a 2 leg tie than Newcastle.
     
  11. maskito

    maskito Member+

    Arsenal
    Jan 14, 2006
    Nashville
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Somehow, I'm not shocked by that. Cheaty's performances on Tuesday (and Saturday) were appalling. It's a logical explanation, though not the only possible one.

    If Cheaty had won on Tuesday, they'd be third in the table and nearly assured top 8. Now they have to rely on other teams and make sure they substantially improve their goal difference to do so. And also, had Cheaty won on Tuesday, the Prem would have all six teams in the top 9 in the table.
     
  12. AEAAFC96

    AEAAFC96 Member+

    Mar 27, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Right, do these dimwits remember at the birth of the UCL when no PL when no team got past the QFs; when Glasgow Rangers were a goal or two away from being in the UCL final ahead of any EPL team, or is it too damning of their g*****n opinion?

    F**k me, sometimes I wish I could open up a YouTube channel and start s******g on their opinion or take.
     
  13. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    We need the teams above city to win their final game so City add two extra games to their schedule.
     
  14. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    LOL, as the kids say, "Let's be guided"
     
  15. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    LOL
     
  16. WhiteRM

    WhiteRM Member+

    Real Madrid
    Jan 17, 2024
    Who do you think is going to win the UCL this year?
     
  17. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Depends on the draw, but the clear favorites are Arsenal and Bayern.
     
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  18. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    To be fair the main reason I see people saying its the weakest EPL league in seasons is they are getting in early to discredit us when we win the league so that if we don't win and then go back to back next season they can say "SEE ARSENAL CAN ONLY WIN WHEN THE LEAGUE IS SHIT".

    Whats funny is its a narrative I am seeing from Liverpool fans, which considering they won the league last year because Arsenal and City had injury horror runs its very amusing.
     
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  19. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    This narrative is stupid too

    The PL was supposedly stronger when two teams were 20-25 points clear of everyone else.
     
  20. AmericanGunner

    Sep 7, 2003
    U.S.A.
    Someone is starting to sound like AmericanGunner. Or more specifically what he is accused of. :p
     
  21. AmericanGunner

    Sep 7, 2003
    U.S.A.
    just
     
  22. AmericanGunner

    Sep 7, 2003
    U.S.A.
    A few weeks ago I uttered the 'quadruple' or 'treble' word. Sounded crazy to everyone at the time. And possibly still does. Now some pundits are saying double which makes sense .
    Interesting thing is we are not the best side of the last 10 to 15 years. There has been better Chelsea, Man Utd and a few different Liverpool and City sides were better, but other than that special City squad a couple years ago, I don't recall anyone saying the treble word for the other sides.
     
  23. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    Champions League, EPL Double should be the target. I haven't watched a lot of football like I normally do, work's insane, but I don't see any really outstanding teams so that makes it more wide open but also increases our chances. Whether it happens will require some timely good fortune.
     
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  24. AmericanGunner

    Sep 7, 2003
    U.S.A.
    We are in the semis of the league cup with an advantage in the semis, odds on to go to the final against City at Wembley. Tough but we should win that.

    We should win the league. City isn't the City from a couple years ago and Villa don't have the staying power and squad. So, so far league cup, we will have a full squad by early to mid February. No CL till a couple months down the line, just FA cup and the league, we should be able to negotiate both with a fully fit squad, 3 strikers to rotate.

    Unless we play a handful or so of teams away with an unlucky draw (City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Villa, Newcastle, Sunderland), I fancy us against anyone in the FA cup so far.

    I expect us to be 8 or 9 points ahead of City by the end of February if the schedule goes the way think (or hope or pray) it is. Breathing room and better for rotation.

    How we do in the FA cup and CL or rather how far with ease or difficulty is up to the draw, but I said this a while back. I expect us to be in the semis of all 3 cups.

    If we win the league cup I think that will give us the psychological boost to win 3 competitions. Which 3 remains to the seen. But I'm guessing, league cup, PL and either of the CL or FA cup. Could be a domestic treble or a poor man's treble (league cup, PL and CL). The CL and FA cups go deep into season into May, and we may have to make some hard choices and sacrifice one and if so it will be the FA cup.
     
  25. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Yeah the quality is increasingly evenly spread and there are no unicorn teams this year

    But i think the discourse exaggerates it a bit - Arsenal is on track for 86 points which is not that much less than the top city / liverpool teams of a couple of years back - you really have to go back for the mega totals

    With a small variance we could still end up with close to 90
     

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