Victims of a Campaign- The Other Footy Teams Thread

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  1. NorthBank

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    Mar 29, 2006
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    Yeah. That was a bullet dodged. So doping violations in footy seem incredibly rare. How’d he get caught??
     
  2. NorthBank

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    I just watched Wrexham S4E3 “Disney FC”. Good show, including their 2-man funny/straight routines.

    Ps. Interesting that they’ve brought in the billionaire Allyn fam as a new partner. Rob & Ryan must be running a little low on their own liquidity, given the investments they need as they eye the Championship.
     
  3. The Jitty Slitter

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  4. And_ROOS

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    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    Sounds like he got caught during international break from what I had seen.

    Glad we dodged that bullet, Tross is ten times the player.
     
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  5. The Jitty Slitter

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    I suspect it's similar to how Pogba got caught. Dude with career issues took a risk
     
  6. CarlosKaiser

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    Kansas City
    Hahahahahaha
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  7. chjoak

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    Curious how a ban would impact Chelsea's PSR/FFP? Maybe they turned him in to get him off the books?
     
  8. Silva 5

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    Mar 10, 2006
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    Love this

    But there must be safety nets in these contracts for the club in situations like this? If a player is involved in legal issues, doping, etc etc
     
  9. ArsenalMetro

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    Pogba and Juve agreed to a mutual termination 9 months after his ban went into effect, so I doubt Chelsea will be able to unilaterally sever the deal.

    I know teams can insure against injury, but doping suspensions seem like a bridge too far, if only because the insurer would want to investigate whether the club bore any responsibility for the violation, and no club wants an outsider digging into their “training” methods like that.
     
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  10. NorthBank

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    #41760 NorthBank, Jun 19, 2025
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    Been sorta watching KSA-USA in Gold Cup. We're not a very good team under Poch, but TBF it's a team made up mainly of 2nd stringers. While he tries to evaluate who might be useful in a year's time. To put things in perspective, the pretty clear MOTM so far at 73' is Chris Richards. And I don't mean to throw any shade his way. He's been key at both ends... goal saving block in 1T and only goal of the match (so far) in 2T.

    Edit: he’s also chosen Matt Freese to start both games, over Matt Turner. He may be trying to engineer our new #1?
     
  11. And_ROOS

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    KSA are poor, USAs best team should and would batter them if they played anywhere outside of Saudi Arabia where the weather and conditioning gives them an advantage against teams not used to it.
    Asian World Cup qualifying they had chances, and yet scaped results against Indonesia, China and Bahrain.
    Would love if they missed the WC, but even if they scrape in they are going to be cannon fodder.
     
  12. The Jitty Slitter

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    Bayern München
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    Belgium
    Yeah the clubs are involved in doping.
     
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  13. Silva 5

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    Really good performances from Richards and Tillman who has become one of my favorite players in football to watch in the last year. Love his game.

    Berhalter's kid plays with attitude and I appreciate that. Good player. Not sure if he's a WC player though.

    Matt Freese actually plays football. Something Turner hasn't known much about in the last 2 or 3 years. He absolutely should be playing over Matt.
     
  14. AEAAFC96

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    Honestly, I don't mind Poch doing this if, for no other reason, find out if the USMNT has real depth or it's all smoke and mirrors after a first choice XI.
     
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  15. CarlosKaiser

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    Kansas City
    Obviously not the same, but in US sports suspended players generally go unpaid during the suspension and their salary does not count against the cap or luxury tax. Contracts that are guaranteed pick up again when the suspension ends.

    Pogba was originally given a 4-year ban that was reduced to 18 mo, Mudryk will probably see something similar. So Chelsea will still be paying his salary until 2031 unless they come to a termination agreement.
     
  16. And_ROOS

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    Dortmunds away kit inspired by the English rugby team with the white shirt, white shorts, black socks and 02 sponsor.
     
  17. Silva 5

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    Dortmund bench watching from the locker room to shelter from 87 degree heat.
     
  18. ArsenalMetro

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    Embarrassing tbh
     
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  19. NorthBank

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    Yeah. Just saw highlights and on the little screen, I was using it kinda looked like England versus Brazil. Footy not ruggers of course.
     
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  20. CarlosKaiser

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    40 year old Santi Cazorla scores a goal that helps his boyhood club Real Oviedo win the promotion playoff and go to La Liga. Amazing that he's able to still play at such a high level after all the injury issues he dealt with.
     
  21. NorthBank

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    He seems almost ideally suited to be a player manager at Oviedo. But if he wanted to work for us, there should be an open door IMHO.
     
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  22. AmericanGunner

    Sep 7, 2003
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    Cazorla, Diaby, Wilshere, and to a lesser extent RvP and Rosicky would have had completely different Arsenal careers were it not for injuries.

    As for Pogba, he was his own worse enemy but he was a massive talent. Mourinho and a few other managers starting with Mourinho who didn't like him at all. Shattered his confidence. Mourinho can do that. He did to Martial as well .
     
  23. And_ROOS

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    Melbourne, Aus
    Don't forget Eduardo.

    That said theres a difference between Rosicky and RVP who were injury prone, Diaby who's issues stemmed from a dogshit tackle, Wilshere who had his legs shredded by midfields weekly and Cazorla who had a freak injury that escalated.

    That said I think should Cazorla stay fit he stays at Arsenal a long time.
     
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  24. DaPrince84

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    This is a fantasy narrative
     
  25. Plumstead Common

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    Where did you get this wild idea from?
     

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