Victims of a Campaign- The Other Footy Teams Thread

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by GunneRy, Mar 25, 2015.

  1. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Maybe, but Chelsea have had significant defensive issues for a while now because their "buy the shiny new thing" approach hasn't really focused on defenders.

    They were about as good as us in attack, but a good 15 goals worse defensively.
     
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  2. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

    Arsenal
    May 10, 2006
    Cincinnati, OH
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maresca is a worse manager than Poch. He might get fired mid season.
     
  3. AmericanGunner

    Sep 7, 2003
    U.S.A.
    As far as Spurs, they will need a long term replacement for Son. Its almost criminal they haven't bought a big reputation, proven striker. When they were top 4 and were regularly giving City and LFC problems, they were not spending on big names. They bought good players for average money. They didn't level up. If you are going to remain in top 4 in the EPL you must spend big at least for a season or two. The sides just below are you improving and that EPL money to buy.
     
  4. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    Really funny seeing the headlines knowing we generate news with the announcement that "Fulham announce cuts including ex-Arsenal player" which was Willian, who is known for being ex-Chelsea and went to a few other clubs after Arsenal before landing at Fulham.
     
  5. NorthBank

    NorthBank Moderator
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    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yup. Meanwhile Poch isn’t exactly lightin it up at USMNT. Too early to judge with that project TBF but…
     
  6. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    Ange is free if the USMNT wants a bit of mate ball :D
     
  7. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Rayan Cherki to Man City is certainly interesting.
     
  8. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  9. AmericanGunner

    Sep 7, 2003
    U.S.A.
    Possible game changer but with the money City has and spent, they don't buy a roll of the dice, they buy established talent.
     
  10. AmericanGunner

    Sep 7, 2003
    U.S.A.
    If Cherki goes to City, with Marmoush, Rodri, Doku, Gundogan, Haaland, its hard to see how they don't return back to to challenge for the title.
     
  11. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    It's interesting because Cherki doesn't defend at all. Which is usually a deal breaker for Pep.
     
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  12. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

    Arsenal
    May 10, 2006
    Cincinnati, OH
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cherki feels like a Sp*rs player to me.
     
  13. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Transfer Flow suggested that would be a great destination for him.
     
  14. AmericanGunner

    Sep 7, 2003
    U.S.A.
    Neither did Ozil. Scholes was a horrible tackler. I will accept your view of his defensive skills or lack of but he's quality.
     
  15. NorthBank

    NorthBank Moderator
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    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Frank to Spuds is all but done deal. Sigh.
     
  16. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Whether other players, who played for other managers, weren't good defensively misses the entire point and the paper it was put on.

    Guardiola demands that his players defend, and if they don't, they don't play. Aside from Haaland, but Cherki isn't Erling Haaland.
     
  17. Plumstead Common

    Arsenal
    Dec 27, 2024
    Scholes wasn’t a bad tackler .. he was just dirty as ********

    And he played defense
     
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  18. Plumstead Common

    Arsenal
    Dec 27, 2024
    Nouri from wolves for 42 mil
    ******** that’s crazy

    he ain’t that good
     
  19. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think both were true. Definitely the latter. But his technique, etc., was often really awkward even when it looked like he wasn't actually trying to injure someone.

    Yeah, I couldn't stand him but he was a hard worker all around.
     
  20. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    RIP Franks career.
     
  21. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Ozil did defend even at the end!

    I recall in his last ever games for Arteta pre-covid he ran like a monster defending from the front.
     
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  22. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I think Ozil was just a generation earlier. He would have been a better version of Odegaard if he were 5-6 years younger, because he did sprint a lot and had higher-than-you-would-think defensive actions. He needed that to be coached into his game more because the aptitude was there.
     
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  23. NorthBank

    NorthBank Moderator
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    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Right you were. Jobe B to Dortmund is now done.
     
  24. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Ozil was always a hardworking player - he ran so much he used to have to be subbed out on 75 mins.

    He came to Arsenal with huge sprint volume - it was Wenger who stopped that. i recall there was a lot of analysis of it at the time.
     
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  25. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Agree with much of this: we forget just how good and how skilled Ozil was.

    But it seems like multiple managers had issues with him, and I do wonder if there was a problem there.
     

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