Victims of a Campaign- The Other Footy Teams Thread

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  1. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Eze gonna be a problem next year at Liverpool . . . or Citeh . . . or Newcastle.
     
  2. NorthBank

    NorthBank Moderator
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    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OK, well done to both Palace (3-2 winners) and Bournemouth (1-3 losers). Which means that even if we lose @Soton, and Citeh win @Fulham, they'd have to score 8 more than the opposition to steal 2nd place. If that happens then new legal charges will be filed!
     
  3. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
    Soton have only won twice all season, Ipswich and Everton. We shouldn't be worrying about goal diff no matter what.
     
  4. NorthBank

    NorthBank Moderator
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    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Absolutely!

    But… they held Citeh to 0-0 ten days ago. Yeah yeah I know it was only a Pep team so… nevermind. :)
     
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  5. ArsenalJake

    ArsenalJake Member+

    Feb 11, 2013
    Charlotte
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I accidentally swiped left on the FotMob app looking at today's EPL results and couldn't believe my eyes . . .

    The Europa League final is tomorrow and features Tottenham Hotspur and Manchester United???

    The two teams hovering just above relegation in the EPL table?

    I'm not sure what is crazier, the state of these two clubs or the fact I never heard they were still alive in the Europa League.
     
  6. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Benefitting from the first year in which there are no CL parachute teams in the competition.
     
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  7. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    Which is why the winner should go into CL qualifying and not automatically get a spot in the CL.
     
  8. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Am I going to get banned if I reveal I will prefer Spuds* to win (more appropriately, I definitely want United to lose....).....
     
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  9. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I couldn't care less who wins, but it would be hilarious for United to round out their season with a cup final loss lol

    I've never really got into the rivalries if you are not actually English. Like when I lived there, i felt there was zero practical difference to the quality of fandom just because you headed towards seven sisters. Having said that, when I went to a game at WHL, i did think their fans were a pack of twats lol.

    I do dislike Man U as a club though - because of the arrogance of the SAF era. But that is more online arsejappery.
     
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  10. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hmmm? Explain.
    :D
     
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  11. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    The Europa League winner is more of a “champion” than the 5th place team in La Liga.

    I’d put the Conference League winner straight into the Champions League league phase too.
     
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  12. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    Bring back champions only European Cup and the Cup Winners Cup
     
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  13. maskito

    maskito Member+

    Arsenal
    Jan 14, 2006
    Nashville
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nah, but we need to bring back the Kangaroo Court. Or bring back @antifan (with his Judge Dredd avatar) to enact appropriate vigilante justice
     
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  14. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Root for the meteor.
     
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  15. maskito

    maskito Member+

    Arsenal
    Jan 14, 2006
    Nashville
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    While I could never fathom being a Spuds supporter, this scenario going into tonight's tie is bonkers: a win and it's their best season in ~40 years, a loss and it's their worst season in ~50.
     
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  16. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    It's probably a little bit funnier if they win because they can't fire Ange without paying him a stupid amount of money and United aren't going to fire Amorim

    On the flip side, Sperz being cash starved is probably a better outcome for Arsenal so it's better if United win? United already print money, so them making Champions League doesn't really change things as much.
     
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  17. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Tottenham being cash-starved or cash-flush doesn't really matter because we know they're almost certainly going to squander whatever they have.
     
  18. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    United are PSR’d without CL.
     
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  19. NorthBank

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    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, I'm basically with you on that. Or maybe maximum 2 "champions" per major league, 1 per lesser league & qualifying for the real minnow league champs.

    The fact that England will have 5-7 teams in UCL next year seems kinda ridiculous.
     
  20. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    It would be more fair, but it’d be a lot less enjoyable.

    I don’t have much interest in seeing Arsenal or Real Madrid against the Irish champions, which is how far you’d be plumbing the depths with that kind of format.

    Like, we absolutely blew the doors off the champions of Europe’s 6th-best league. There’s no benefit to anyone if we’re playing the champions of Europe’s 30th-best league.
     
  21. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    People like nostalgia because it happened when they were young.

    There is no joy in seeing Barcelona putting three touchdowns on the Slovakian champions.
     
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  22. AEAAFC96

    AEAAFC96 Member+

    Mar 27, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Honestly I get why people would want to return to the classic, two-legged format in the old European Cup...but do you really want to see Inter put 8 past APOEL Nicosia in a first-round away leg?
     
  23. AmericanGunner

    Sep 7, 2003
    U.S.A.
    I'd go for the old only league champions system.
     
  24. NorthBank

    NorthBank Moderator
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    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #41399 NorthBank, May 21, 2025
    Last edited: May 21, 2025
    I woulda classified Irish League champs as minnows, thus they'd have to go through qualification on merit to play in the group stage, and thus we'd likely not see them.

    My suggestion of 2 per major league, 1 per lesser league, and X minnows to make up an even group table was pretty much OTTOMH, but it might be an interesting exercise to delineate the European leagues in those 3 categories and see how the math might work out.

    For example...

    Majors (2 each): England, Spain, Germany, France, Italy, Portugal?, Nederlands?, other?? (16-18 teams)
    Lessers (1 each): Scotland, Belgium, Croatia, Serbia, Slovakia, Ukraine, Austria, Czech, Suisse, Sweden?, Denmark?, etc? (10-12 teams)
    Minnows (1 each after quali-round): Ireland, Slovenia, Slovakia, etc, etc, etc? (<=6 teams)

    I'm sure I've missed some countries. And maybe the majors should be 3 each, or based on some UEFA coefficient so the big 4-5 leagues would get 3 each while the others would just get 2?
     
  25. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

    Arsenal
    May 10, 2006
    Cincinnati, OH
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’m pulling hard for the sinkhole, but I’d be fine with meteor.
     

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