Victims of a Campaign- The Other Footy Teams Thread

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by GunneRy, Mar 25, 2015.

  1. Senor Askew

    Senor Askew Member

    Jan 19, 2001
    San Francisco, CA.
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Matt Le Tissier scored 47 of the 48 penalties he attempted in his career. And yet he could never get a game for England...
     
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  2. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
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  3. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    I wonder how much time they spend practicing. I play at a scrub level, but our league has a lot of knock out comps through the preseason and then during the season. I have been in a penalty shoot out every season for 7 straight seasons before I stopped with an injury.

    In the 4 years I have been off, 2 seasons they had two pen shoot outs and 2 seasons they had one.

    My team practiced penalties weekly, and we lost 1 shoot out by 1 goal in 7 years. I wonder how often the pros seriously practice these. Auba and Laca have great technique but I wonder how much of that is "strikers instinct" and how much is practice.
     
  4. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    I'm in favor of scrapping penalty shootouts to decide a match and go with the golden goal. I'd allow extra subs every 25 minutes of extra time and hell, maybe even both teams lose a player every 25 minutes to open the field up more.
     
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  5. gunner7

    gunner7 Member+

    Jul 27, 2008
    Sunshine California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There’s some skills with penalties but there’s a lot of luck involved too. Rule of thumb for England should be….never leave it to penalties to decide the game.
     
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  6. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    Roberto Baggio in the 1994 World Cup Final
     
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  7. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know what you mean, but when I read that I said to myself "surely he got some England games". Wikipedia lists 8 games, and 0 goals. Surprisingly low compared to 443 games and 161 goals for Soton.
     
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  8. Senor Askew

    Senor Askew Member

    Jan 19, 2001
    San Francisco, CA.
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I knew he played for England a few times so when I said never I was speaking relatively. Imagine if England had Le Tissier for their penalty shootout against Argentina in 1998 instead of David Batty…
    Out of interest I just looked up good penalty records and Rickie Lambert of all people was a perfect 34/34 in his career. Never would have guessed that.
     
  9. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    And he was injured and could barely walkz

    In typical, England mentality, not many are questioning why England decided to sit on a 1-0 lead for 65 minute. Southgate sucks.
     
  10. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    One of my all time favorite players. I believe he was cramping up the second extra time period.
     
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  11. Senor Askew

    Senor Askew Member

    Jan 19, 2001
    San Francisco, CA.
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was too young (8) to appreciate Italia 90. I watched some matches with my dad, but wasn't that into it. It was watching Baggio drag an average Italy team to the final on one good leg in 1994 that really made me fall in love with footy. Baggio was so good. So graceful and effortless. Somewhere in my parents attic there's a box with a Baggio poster in it that was on my wall as a teenager. I need to get that and put it up again.
    It still irks me that probably the least interesting Brazil team ever assembled won in 1994. They were Romario, Bebeto, eight defenders and a goalkeeper. So many good Brazil teams and that one won? Funny old game.
     
  12. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    WC 94 was a pretty boring tourney compared to 82. 86 and 90

    '98 was quite good apart from the dud final

    Once you get to 2002 the quality was way down
     
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  13. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    Come on man, Dunga! Taffarel! Ronaldo! Cafu! Leonardo!

    sorry, for some reason these names have stuck in my head from my '94 world cup card collection.
     
  14. Senor Askew

    Senor Askew Member

    Jan 19, 2001
    San Francisco, CA.
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ronaldo doesn't count. He was a teenager and didn't even play.
    All I remember Leonardo for is fracturing Tab Ramos' skull with an elbow maneuver that would have been considered dirty in a street fight.
    Brazil got the job done in '94. They won. Kudos. I was just saying its ironic that so many exciting and talented Brazilian teams haven't won and that workman like and unspectacular team did.
     
  15. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    England should seriously consider calling Big Daddy Wengz. This England team is stylistically similar to the invincibles, imo.

    Just need a goalkeeper and a Vieira.
     
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  16. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    dude, I know he didn't play. I was just amazed I could recall names of that team from '94 (I was 12) based solely on remembering the cards I collected. :)
     
  17. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    Makes you a year younger than my second son, who got Dunga’s autograph on a paper napkin during a flight from Detroit
    to the San Francisco Bay Area, before their game with the U.S. The napkin disappeared a long time ago, as did the autograph he got from Roger Craig at a track meet where Craig’s daughter was a participant.
     
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  18. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Don’t even have Brexit to look forward to now that it’s already happened
     
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  19. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    Germany’s training base was at the high school one town over, went to watch a few practices.
     
  20. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As an outsider, this is a fantastic idea. Having a Frenchman, and Wenger above all, win a title for England would be delicious.
     
  21. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England

    65? We scored in the second minute lmao
     
  22. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Can’t blame the players

    Southgate decided the order after training %
    You know, with now crowd or pressure
     
  23. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    If I was England manager I'd be forcing them to shoot penalties in really traumatic circumstances constantly. Wake them up with fireworks, run them around in the middle of the night Remember the Titans style, tase them as they're about to kick the ball, drop them into ice water if they don't make it. Like holy shit, the England sucking at penalties thing is so fcuking tired. Just go all out to make shooting penalties in a hostile stadium the *least* stressful situation they've shot penalties in.
     
  24. DutchFanatic

    DutchFanatic Member

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Dec 23, 2013
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    That's gonna get dark quick. I like it.
     
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  25. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Oh don't worry

    Brexit is never finished
     

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