Very telling things about the current state of college soccer

Discussion in 'College & Amateur Soccer' started by Sandon Mibut, Dec 13, 2019.

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  1. JoeSoccerFan

    JoeSoccerFan Member+

    Aug 11, 2000
    #401 JoeSoccerFan, May 28, 2025
    I saw about 20 schedules. Most will come out in June.
     
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  2. collegesoccer

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    Apr 11, 2005
    #402 collegesoccer, Jun 10, 2025
    At least when many of the national team players played in college, they played for their national team with heart and competed. This US Team is embarrassing. Can't blame this on college soccer.
     
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  3. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
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    #403 msilverstein47, Jun 11, 2025
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  4. Fitballer

    Fitballer Member

    Mar 6, 2015
    #404 Fitballer, Jun 11, 2025
    Interesting--glad to see that the chair of that committee is someone who knows and loves college soccer but has a good grasp on the game and business etc...
     
  5. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    #405 Sandon Mibut, Jun 12, 2025
    Except half the players who got capped in the Switzerland debacle played college soccer.

    STARTERS:
    Matt Turner – Fairfield, 4 seasons
    Walker Zimmerman – Furman, 2
    Mark McKenzie – Wake Forest, 1
    Max Arftsen – UC Davis, 3
    Sebastian Berhalter – North Carolina, 1
    Brian White – Duke, 4

    SUBS
    Tim Ream – Saint Louis, 4
    Patrick Agyemang – Rhode Island, 5!

    And against Turkey, we also saw:
    Matt Freese - Harvard, 2
    Miles Robinson - Syracuse, 2

    While college soccer certainly isn't to blame for the current state of the USMNT, it also isn't providing much in the way of solutions to turn this listless ship around. Things are pretty bad all over.
     
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  6. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    #406 Sandon Mibut, Jun 12, 2025
    There was a time I thought I had a handle on how all this would play out. That handle is completely out the window now. Anything's possible in this new landscape and I'm quite curious to see the proposed solutions to improve college soccer. Cautiously optimistic but also very cynical in thinking much will actually change for the better within college soccer.
     
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  7. The Big Dig

    The Big Dig Member

    Manchester United
    United States
    Sep 25, 2020
    #407 The Big Dig, Jun 12, 2025
    I think the point is that these players are all playing professionally after playing in college. I think the best players in the country who will end up being the majority of the national team roster, will skip college but the college game can still fill rosters in the MLS and especially with additional pro leagues in MLS Next Pro and USL levels.
     
  8. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    #408 Sandon Mibut, Jun 12, 2025
    I don't think that was the point, at all, to which I was responding.

    The implication was that the USMNT was better and played with more heart and conviction when it was predominantly former college players. Now most of the players in the pool skipped college* and the US appears to be playing with far less heart and conviction.

    I merely pointed out that in the case of the latest listless losses, the theory doesn't hold because many of the players on the field had played college soccer.

    *Since the end of the last World Cup, the USMNT has capped 92 players. Only 25 of them played college soccer and only 9 played 4 seasons of college ball.
     
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  9. The Big Dig

    The Big Dig Member

    Manchester United
    United States
    Sep 25, 2020
    #409 The Big Dig, Jun 12, 2025
    My fault, I thought you were responding to the article about US soccer! The team that played against Switzerland is a C team at best so agreed, no correlation to college soccer and heart/conviction etc. and all in regard to being good enough. Or not good enough in this case.
     
  10. JoeSoccerFan

    JoeSoccerFan Member+

    Aug 11, 2000
    #410 JoeSoccerFan, Jun 15, 2025
    I have little faith that this committee will do anything substantial to help the college game. It reminds me of that old saying, "I'm from US Soccer and I am here to help!".
     
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  11. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    #411 TimB4Last, Jun 18, 2025
    Geoegertown's schedule came out yesterday. Maryland's is also out, and Maryland visits Georgetown on August 25.
     
  12. JoeSoccerFan

    JoeSoccerFan Member+

    Aug 11, 2000
    #412 JoeSoccerFan, Jun 20, 2025
    for people in the DMV, I've seen D1 schedules for AU (but they pulled it down after a day), UMBC, JMU, GMU, VCU, Gtown and MD (as you pointed out). I may have missed one of two.

    Still GW, Howard, Loyola, MSM, UVA and DE unpublished.

    When did Gtown get lights? They have a host of evening matches.
     
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  13. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    #413 TimB4Last, Jun 20, 2025
    I’m not sure when lights were installed, and I’ve never watched a night game there. I’ll try to catch the Maryland game, and then several other early-season matches have some appeal: Pitt, Vermont, Duke and JMU - in a row and all at home.

    Back to Maryland, I have the Indiana match in October on my calendar, as the 2005 Championship team will be honored that evening.
     
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  14. BigBear

    BigBear Member

    Apr 20, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #414 BigBear, Jun 24, 2025
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