OK, I've taken it upon myself to start this thread. Since I have agency of first post, let me take the opportunity to say
I never got any feedback on how we want to handle "accidents" in signing already taken players. Perhaps people assume I'm being paranoid, which may be, but I'm just judging from my experience with a bb fantasy league in which we've had numerous ridiculous controversies over the years. For instance, it is standard in leagues like this to have an appeal process set up in case most managers suspect collusion. ie, Team A trades Beckham to Team C for Robbie Savage and a bus token. Obviously, this undermines the competitivenes of the league, and kind of ruins everyone's fun. However, that said, I don't really see that being a problem here. I'm more concerned about the possibility of "honest mistakes." With most of us participating in multiple fantasy leagues on various sites, I could easily see someone mistakenly making a quick last minute transfer move just before a deadline, and then realizing after the team was locked for the week that the player had already been signed by someone else. Let's have a vote on what to do in that situation: A) Nothing, slap on the wrist and an apology expected (obviously has to drop the player immediately) B) Temporary (3 or 5 week?) suspension from transfers C) 4 point penalty (would entail using both the free transfer and one extra for the following week WITHOUT improving or changing his team) D) 8 point penalty (same as above, but forced to make 2 moves in addition to the freebie) E) TBD point penalty...whatever total the player scored that week, rounded up to the nearest 4 points *Note, C and D might also both entail tax losses, though I suppose the dummy transfers could be made with players of equal value
Um, some harsh penaltys there. I would offer that the first mistake be no more than a "slap on the wrist" A second offence however, would have to be considered a bit much and the 4 point penalty would be a good answer. A third offence would get you an 8 point penalty. Each offence geting you an ever increasing 4 point penalty. IE 5th offence would give you a 16 point penalty.
I agree.... A first mistake could be genuine.... but the player must be dropped by the offender, and the player sold (if still available) bought back before a "real" transfer can be made. Anyone who repeatedly offends (or is too lazy to check the forum and teamsheets online) gets the points deduction treatment. If the offence is committed on a week where double games occur there are many points to be earned..... So I suggest the manager should also forfeit the points earned by the ilegally fielded player (rounded up to the nearest 4) as well as the normal penalty. There are only eight of us in the league, so hopefully there won't be too much wrongdoing intentionally.... but we are a competitive bunch Michel
Yeah, I like the idea of forfeiting the points, but no real penalty unless it becomes a chronic issue.
agree Good system guys. I think it would be perfect if we found a repository for all of these penalty points. May I suggest that all deducted points are then added to the team total of London St. Germain? I think that's the only fair solution. Seriously though, I think the system you have discussed seems fair and nondraconian.
Sounds good. Let's hope situations like this will be few and far between. I would imagine as players get injured and therefore transferred, this might arise when a player comes back from injury and two of us jump to re-sign him at the same time. Gotta check the forum on the premierleague.com site first. Paul Scholes jumps to mind as an example.
That is why i decided to carry Lundjberg for a couple of weeks as my 5th and unused midfielder. Bad start for my team was compounded by the fact that i have three Chelsea players as well as three Blackburn players.The wrong ones let in the goals whilst the wrong ones scored the goals. Must bear that in mind for the return at Stamford Bridge.
Banner day for gudjohnsen today...two goals scored and MOTM award....he he. Good move on picking up Zola 1800, he scored yet again today.
This new "Bonus" for playing a good game really mixes things up. I notice that Bellamy hit for 5 pts in a 3-0 loss! Nice work if you can get it, I guess. Meanwhile, Jones Cracked Wheat has finally dipped into the market as well after losing faith in Lua Lua and not willing to wait anymore on the overpriced Anderton.
Noticed that bonus points, Robinson of Leeds got that for the game against Newcastle last week too. Me likes the Bellamy points!!
Another roster move for me, announced in the forum, Svensson out, Thompson (Blackburn) in. Too late for today's goal though.
Finally got in after many attempts Kill The Man U Scum.....your user name according to the league chart. By the way fellas i notice we have all reverted to 0 points. I guess the competion proper has started. Good luck to all...esp ME.
Talking About Luck ..... my lot are going to need a lot of that As for picking Zola..... I sold Campbell (who scored two) to get him.
By The Way Any of you interested in the UEFA Champions League..... without the Live draft. Games kick off on Tueday night..... deadline is 6:30pm GMT. The site is at: http://en.uclfantasy.uefa.com/ And the code to join the "Champions Are Back" League is: 106797@_66533 We're currently up to 25 managers. Michel
I am in, but I missed the live draft aspect. Not! Actually that was quite a laugh, but after 5 days i had to get back to my marriage!!
Taking a pass Played that last year, didn't think much of it. Besides i'm in far to many now to keep track of. Good news today as Lundjberg makes his return for the gunners in their game against the hun. He's back in action and my midfield is now formidable.
Yes, you were very quick out of the gate when he shockingly announced he'd be back early from injury. Might have been worth a late round pick even if you had to wait another month or so. Scored a nice one today on his debut, apparently.
official forum to report roster moves Are we reporting them primarily here, or in the league forum on the CYKI page? I think we should establish this with certainty so there's no room for confusion about where one should check before picking a player.
Re: official forum to report roster moves I understood we were to post on the league forum on the cyki page.
Yes, the Roster Forum on the League Page is where official moves need to be posted. I think this will be a mix of smack talk, post game bitching, and general league analysis. Speaking of this, has anyone gone through and "ranked" our squads heading into the first weekend. Hal usually does this type of prediction before every fantasy season, but I think he's been travelling a lot recently. Anyone want to make a guess? Personally, I was pretty happy with how balanced the teams turned out after the draft...don't seem to have any total morons like the guy one year who drafted Ante Razov as the first overall pick in a league I was in...when Razov had moved to Spain months before. That said, how bout a little smack. Anyone care to dispute the following claim? "Jones Cracked Wheat sports the #1 player at each of the four positions." G: Seaman (tied with Dudek?) D: Harte M: Robert F: Hasselbaink (tied with Henry and Van Nistleroy?) Of course, the problem is my supporting cast, which after Beckham, is suspect. ************************** I just went back and looked at everyone's most recent rosters. Here's my total half-baked, off the cuff predictions: 1) London St. Germain: strong everywhere, and with Pires to help in a month or so. 2) 1800 UK.com - phenomenal midfield could carry them 3) Jones Cracked Wheat - good balance, need Viduka to have a better year than last 4) Kopite - the strikers Henry, Shearer, and Bellamy might be enough on their own 5) Clanblue - Ljunberg's early return is huge (highest avg pts/per game from last season for all players) 6) Trollpop - strong in most areas, but I'm skeptical of the front lne, with Wiltord sure to cool off and Diouf hardly a consistent starter 7) Kill Man U Scum - Similar to Trollpop, with Owen set to play 70% of games, though Anelka looks to be on good form 8) Outback - Also similar to Troll and Kill Man U, in that I'm wary of a front line relying on Robbie Keane. Maccarone may emerge as a top threat though, and Andy Cole will be good when back from injury.
Pre-Season Rankings Here are the pre-season scoring stats for the players on the Very Small Rocks teams: Likely starter pre-season scoring stats in ( ): Ingromius' London St. Germain: Likely to play a 5-3-2 formation: Team Total: 270 pts. (226) GK: 35 (19) Def: 95 (95) Mid: 95 (0 for Pires) (73) Stkr: 45 (39) KopiteinKC's Kopite Juniors: Likely to play a 2-5-3 formation: Team Total: 232 pts. (229) GK: 25 (25) Def: 23 (20) Mid: 108 (108) Stkr: 76 (76) Hal's Trollpop Aviation: Likely to play a 2-5-3 formation: Team Total: 310 pts (256) GK: 48 (25) Def: 68 (37) Mid: 108 (108) Stkr: 86 (86) 1800-WorldCup's 1800-UK.com Edited to reflect pick ups on 9/20, See (R ) numbers Likely to play a 3-5-2 formation: Roster change suggest a 2-5-3 formation: Team Total: 352 (Revised 363) pts (280) R (283) GK: 39 (R 39) (17) (R 17) Def: 88 (R 99) (53) (R 41) Mid: 150 (R 143) (150) (R 143) Stkr: 75 (R 82) (60) (R 82) ClanBlue's Chelsea in PA Likely to play a 3-5-2 formation: Team Total: 254 pts (201) + Ljungberg GK: 24 (24) Def: 89 (51) Mid: 94 (0 for Ljungberg) (94) Stkr: 47 (32) DoctorJones24's Jones Cracked Wheat Likely to play a 3-4-3 formation Team Total: 287 pts (243) GK: 43 (24) Def: 86 (63) Mid: 105 (93) Stkr: 63 (63) Captain Splarg's Kill the MANU Scum Likely to play a 3-4-3 formation Team Total: 309 pts (244) GK: 60 (32) Def: 71 (53) Mid: 119 (100) Stkr: 59 (59) Outback Maverick's Cape Tribulation Likely to play a 4-4-2 formation: Team Total: 303 pts. (232) GK: 43 (19) Def: 104 (93) Mid: 101 (80) Stkr: 55 (39) Likely rankings based on pre-season scores (shows form) of likely starting 11: 1. R 283 1800-UK.com 2. 256 Trollpop Aviation 3. 244 Kill the MANU Scum 4. 243 Jones Cracked Wheat 5. 232 Cape Tribulation 6. 201 + Ljungberg Chelsea in PA 7. 229 Kopite Juniors 8. 226 London St. Germain