very dissapointed with transfers

Discussion in 'LA Galaxy' started by phoenixhazard, Apr 1, 2011.

  1. phoenixhazard

    phoenixhazard Member+

    Oct 26, 2010
    Seattle, WA
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    RSL is good but I really don't think they are the stand out best in our league, I'm 100% rooting for them tho in CCL. MLS needs to be a regular in the Final.

    Lastly, Henry has been good not great. DeRo will make him great. He is used to getting good service up front, not having to go back and collect as deep. Henry will tear it up now. LA vs NY is looking sexier and sexier by the day.

    With Becks looking darn good in the center it seems critical to find a speedster right mid now, our team definitely lacks speed.
     
  2. Hushx

    Hushx Member

    Aug 20, 2007
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unfortunately he got a red card last game against Philly Union due to the ref making a bad call - one of our former forwards, a Guatemalan by the name of Carlos Ruiz, acted as if he was intentionally elbowed in the face, thus Chris got sent about 10-15 minutes into the second half.

    He still hasn't made a goal yet (but hey, that's not his role), but I think he'll nab a few this season.
     
  3. juniorLA

    juniorLA Member

    Mar 4, 2008
    El Lay
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's a very hard worker, plays defensive midfield for us, generally, and he covers a great deal of ground. Does a good job at breaking up plays, occasionally a bit sloppy with his touches/passing. Great commitment, great work ethic, doesn't tend to give up fouls in dangerous areas.
     
  4. primality

    primality New Member

    Jun 20, 2007
    The Rose Bowl
    http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/henderson-seattle-looking-target-help-top


    Seattle is another team looking to surpass us in the striker department. It would be best to add that 2nd or 3rd Striker sooner rather than later. Hopefully we are looking to upgrade the position so that the player is integrated and acclimated by mid-season. The current transfer window is closing shortly. Are we looking to make an impact in Champions League this year?
     
  5. phoenixhazard

    phoenixhazard Member+

    Oct 26, 2010
    Seattle, WA
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i am DYING for it but i dont see bruce buying anyone for the rest of this transfer window. we really really REALLY do need a new striker and a new fast RM or LM
     
  6. barroldinho

    barroldinho Member+

    Man Utd and LA Galaxy
    England
    Aug 13, 2007
    US/UK dual citizen in HB, CA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Again: Lopez and Cardozo fit that criteria.

    You need to relax. It's a long season. Think back to how Juninho was at this point last year and how he developed.

    Lopez played very well in his last game and Cardozo has shown in pre-season that while he has areas to develop, at the very least he can provide service down the flanks.

    More importantly, we're building a nucleus that should be around for some considerable time.

    Consider what Gonzalez, DLG, Franklin, Juninho and Stephens are capable of today and then remember that they're all basically kids with years of development and ahead of them. If Lopez can produce that level of skill on a regular basis for us, while building chemistry with the team, then I see further evidence of an intelligent building process. It's far too early to write off Cardozo (or to assume that Lindpere for example, will replicate last seasons form).

    That will serve us (MLS Cup runners up and SS winners in the last two seasons) far better going forward than drafting in a 32 year old DeRo to an attacking system that already contains three expensive DPs.
     
  7. primality

    primality New Member

    Jun 20, 2007
    The Rose Bowl
    They were both nice finds, but Cardozo was selected in the draft. Bringing in Angel was a necessity, but we need better striker depth from the transfer market if we are going for titles. Hopefully we are looking to improve, because many teams have been.


    http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/liverpool-product-trialing-chivas-usa

    After drafting Estupinan, Chivas is looking for more attacking depth.
     
  8. Jones71

    Jones71 New Member

    Aug 12, 2008
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    No disrespect, but your argument doesn't make any sense whatsoever in the context of the salary-capped MLS; i.e. a selling league. Yes, Juninho has improved during his time year, but he's not an LA Galaxy player - he's a Sao Paulo player and will return to his squad at season's end (LA Galaxy will not be able to pay a transfer fee). Yes, Omar Gonzalez is a great centerback with tremendous upside, but now that he's getting called to the USMNT, I find it very hard to believe he will stay with LA Galaxy/MLS after this season, the following at best. Europe will come calling and he will certainly answer that call. Should Sean Franklin start to get called regularly to the NT, I would think his days in MLS are numbered as well.

    The point being, MLS is not like the NFL or MLB where you traditionally build and develop your squads for the future - the time to win in MLS is now and will be so for the forseeable future because your team will not be together for very long. Thus, and to go back to the original point, NYRB trade for DeRo was very astute.
     
  9. barroldinho

    barroldinho Member+

    Man Utd and LA Galaxy
    England
    Aug 13, 2007
    US/UK dual citizen in HB, CA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Frankly I disagree. I think you're underestimating the timeframe for players coming in and going abroad. You might get that with a Stuart Holden, but he's a player who had talent enough to be a strong starter in the EPL straight off. A player in a position as reliant on footballing IQ and organisation as CB is not going to see many 22 yr olds spirited away to Europe before they have significantly developed.

    Omar is still developing an I doubt he'll be going anywhere for a year or two more. I'd actually say that Franklin is more ready for that jump, yet here he still is.

    Juninho might be taken back to Sao Paolo, or we might sign him outright (what makes you think we can't offer a transfer fee? That only applies to intraleague transfers). He's good for the MLS, but for one of Brazil's top sides? Again, not at this stage in his development.

    FTR, I didn't say DeRo wasn't a good pickup or that a new forward would be out of the question. However, given that we've been working with a streaky Buddle, green Bowen, Magee, Kiro and Alan Gordon for a few years, JPA, Lopez, Barrett, Magee and Cristman isn't that bad a selection.

    If anything, JPA is a more reliable performer than Buddle, Lopez at first glances appears to be more deveoped than Bowen and Barrett and Cristman are at worst, interchangable with Gordon and Magee, but probably more productive.
     
  10. phoenixhazard

    phoenixhazard Member+

    Oct 26, 2010
    Seattle, WA
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gonzo will be out end of next season if he keeps it up. Him and Ream are the USA CBs. Franklin will probably get that call in the next few years as well, definitely after next WCup cycle.

    Stephens I don't get, he has his moments but I really don't see him becoming a super star, hope i'm wrong though. Lopez and Cardoza had good times but we don't know for sure what they will be like on a steady basis. And neither have blistering speed, which we really do need.

    ...we also need a steal drum band behind Ricketts at ALL TIMES!
     
  11. juniorLA

    juniorLA Member

    Mar 4, 2008
    El Lay
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I really don't know if Omar is going to get called up to the USMNT again, unless he makes some leaps forward in his distribution. These last friendlies were a strong statement about where Omar stands vs. Tim Ream.

    Franklin is currently sitting behind, among others, Steve Cherundolo, Eric Lichaj and Tim Chandler.
     
  12. barroldinho

    barroldinho Member+

    Man Utd and LA Galaxy
    England
    Aug 13, 2007
    US/UK dual citizen in HB, CA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Gonzo has great potential as a CB and already has the physical and technical tools to hold his own. However, he is still learning about his positioning, organisation and reading of the game and as JuniorLA pointed out, his distribution needs much improvement. He's on the fringes of the nats right now. This is not criteria for a Euro move - not at 22 years old.

    With the MLS improving year-on-year, the expanding Salary Cap and the issues with playing and/or development that the likes of Gooch, Altidore and Adu have experienced, I think we will see players staying progressively longer in the league going forward. There was a time when Omar Cummings and Fredy Montero would be elsewhere by now.

    Now Stephens, you can't judge too firmly just yet. Just because Gonzo and Franklin have exploded out of the blocks, you can't expect that from everyone. Young players in particular develop at different rates. Stephens to me looks very promising because the IQ and basic technique is there. There is a lot to work with there.

    Now I notice you use the term "superstar". If you mean it in the way I would normally use it, I agree. But then I'd say the same about Gonzo and Franklin. However, I use that term to reference an exceptional, well-known talent. If you simply mean a top Galaxy player, I'd disagree. Stephen may never become a player who generates highlight reels, but I can certainly see him becoming a vital cog in the future. In fact, players who read the game well and make good decisions (something that Stephens has shown great signs of doing for his age) are as essential to great teams as the spectacular, flashy ones.
     
  13. GalaxyKoa

    GalaxyKoa Member+

    Jul 18, 2007
    North County
    Club:
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I love having players like Franklin on the team. He's probably as good as he's going to get, and currently he's a top class MLS right back. He's ALMOST good enough to be a national team player, but it's likely at his age the national team will look for options who might develop further (Chandler, Lichaj). He won't really get called in much more to the national team except for some Camp Cupcake games, so we won't miss him to national team callups. As well, being out of the national team picture means that he may not get looks from Europe (though he could easily decide to not re-sign with us and go over seas for a decent chunk of change). Under the right circumstances, Franklin could end up being a career Galaxy player and possible legend.
     
  14. LA GALAXIAN

    LA GALAXIAN Member

    Feb 2, 2009
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    just to clarify: DeRosario is NOT a designated player....and therefore we could have made a similar move - just as Toronto agreed to pay part of his salary to NY. It is therefore safe to assume that our management did fall asleep at the switch or rather decided to make some silly moves past offseason (remember Bowen ?)....well too bad it would be nice to have him available now.......
     
  15. GalaxyKoa

    GalaxyKoa Member+

    Jul 18, 2007
    North County
    Club:
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think De Ro would have been a good long term signing and I think if we had picked him up I would have been worried. Bruce isn't a guy who reacts quickly, good or bad.
     
  16. Baysider

    Baysider Member+

    Jul 16, 2004
    Santa Monica
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Omar's distribution wasn't looking very good against Philadelphia either.

    However, I do expect both of these guys to be gone when they're contracts are up. Franklin might stay if we gave him a good offer, but given the fact that we tend to use all our DPs and that we still need attacking help, it's hard to see us spending a lot on a defender.
     
  17. phoenixhazard

    phoenixhazard Member+

    Oct 26, 2010
    Seattle, WA
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    yes we need to address our problem up front with goals. but if we don't keep our current strong back line our problem might quickly shift to conceding goals.
     
  18. MLSoverEPL

    MLSoverEPL New Member

    Feb 25, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    I heard Omar played with an injury. That might explain his poor form
     
  19. iride_mybike

    iride_mybike Member+

    Mar 31, 2004
    DFW
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    These last friendlies are no statement at all regarding Ream vs. Gonzo. Gonzo was hurt and not called in. I agree Gonzo needs to work on his distribution but people completely blow Ream's passing ability out of proportion. His stellar passing ability cost NY the game against Philly.
     
  20. jmaestro

    jmaestro Member+

    Mar 27, 2008
    Bakersfield
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They blow it out of proportion because it's the main difference between Ream and Gonzalez. And yeah, he's young and makes mistakes, but watching his link up play, it's truly a value added thing from a centerback. Not that Gonzo can't improve, but it's a weakness for him and a strength for Ream. As a USMNT fan, I'd rather see Ream because of the flow out of the backfield. As a Galaxy fan, I really hope Gonzo gets into the range of "average" or "above average" because they would give us quite a few extra possessions every game where he doesn't hoof it down to the opposing defense or out of bounds.
     
  21. Vindo310

    Vindo310 Member+

    Mar 19, 2009
    South Bay LA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought Omar was really good against DC at keeping his distribution on the ground and to people's feet. I remember seeing him complete some really long ground passes to the wide players.
     
  22. Qamle

    Qamle Member

    May 2, 2004
    San Diego
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    I'm assuming you didn't see his involvement in Philly's goal this weekend...
     
  23. jmaestro

    jmaestro Member+

    Mar 27, 2008
    Bakersfield
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I did see it. Not his finest hour. However, if we're going to judge players on their dumbest plays instead of the body of their work and taking into account age and experience, then we're going to have to assume all young players are worthless. If you enjoy watching aimless hoofs out of the back, then by all means believe that Ream overrated.
     
  24. FusionRefugee

    FusionRefugee Member

    Sep 2, 2002
    We are looking to win MLS cup not another Supporter's shield. Remember last year? By 4th of July we looked like the best Galaxy team ever, only to suck a fat one in the fall. This team is built to win in the fall not the spring. If Lopez and Cardozo mature in the same way Junhino did near the end of last season we will be fine.
     
  25. Qamle

    Qamle Member

    May 2, 2004
    San Diego
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Gonzalez only gave the ball away once last weekend. I think the blanket statement that Gonzalez is poor at distributing the ball is no longer as accurate as it has been.
     

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