Ventura's Italia

Discussion in 'Italy: National Teams' started by Stamos, Jul 2, 2016.

  1. TheAnswer1313

    TheAnswer1313 Member+

    Dec 12, 2007
    Charleston, WV
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I'm in Charleston WV so I was hoping we'd play Columbus in the knockout round. I would have definitely made that trip.

    Toronto is a bit of a trip lol.

    Not sure I'd wanna go all that way to watch them lose. There is no way they are turning this around. Toronto is really good this season
     
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  2. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I don’t know why any of you would travel more than 30 mins to watch that amateur soccer
     
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  3. TheAnswer1313

    TheAnswer1313 Member+

    Dec 12, 2007
    Charleston, WV
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    MLS isn't as bad as people make it out to be.


    Granted it'll never be on the level of Serie A, EPL, La Liga etc etc........it's still not awful lol
     
  4. Italy-Azzurri-Fan

    Nov 15, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Well the defending is awful though. Maybe not the whole league, but literally players are defending like they are scared to touch the ball. That is why Giovinco is getting so much praise. Their is no defense at all.
     
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  5. romanista8910

    romanista8910 Member+

    May 7, 2010
    Roma
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    The league is terrible but he scores most of his goals on free kicks. Defense or not he's still going to score those. Italy has nobody who can take a proper free kick, he's worth the call up.
     
  6. forza_azzurri

    forza_azzurri Member

    May 31, 2005
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    How is defending in the EPL ? MLS is based around the EPL style. Would love to see TFC play a mid Seria A team to prove all of you wrong. Like I said before , we can't beat Costa Rica where most play in MLS. Take your heads out of your asses.
     
  7. TheAnswer1313

    TheAnswer1313 Member+

    Dec 12, 2007
    Charleston, WV
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Exactly. The lack of defense is a weak argument when you are scoring the goals from free kicks.

    The MLS argument is way overblown. The only thing that should matter is whether he is better than the guys who are currently on the team. And sure you can factor the strength of the leagues into that but I think way too much weight is being given to it.
     
  8. TheAnswer1313

    TheAnswer1313 Member+

    Dec 12, 2007
    Charleston, WV
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    FWIW while we will probably never know the answer to that, this site contains rankings for the main leagues around the world.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/soccer-predictions/serie-a/

    Toronto is at 175. They have a rating of 48.1. Looking at Serie A, that would suggest that if Toronto played in Serie A, they would be fighting relegation.

    So there is a gap and it is massive. But just because there's a gap in the teams, doesn't mean that one player from that league couldn't be better than our existing crop of forwards.
     
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  9. forza_azzurri

    forza_azzurri Member

    May 31, 2005
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    For the free kicks alone I would call Giovinco up. One goal could make or break us. 1998 was no slam dunk either with a playoff with Russia. had to sweat it out late into the 2nd half of the 2nd leg.
     
  10. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Perhaps try a mid table Serie B team first.
     
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  11. Italy-Azzurri-Fan

    Nov 15, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Well EPL teams defending is quite questionable as well honestly but still better than MLS. Actually though Spurs are the only good defensive team in the EPL. The rest really struggle.
     
  12. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Speaking of horrible defending, it makes you wonder if Genoa, Verona and Benevento could win a game in MLS?

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  13. TheAnswer1313

    TheAnswer1313 Member+

    Dec 12, 2007
    Charleston, WV
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I feel bad for Benevento.....I think they gonna go winless lol
     
  14. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Yes they should look for all the free agents they can come December. I just don't' think they can afford a Cassano, Gilardino and Pirlo. Even if those guys are not playing, i doubt they would play for them..
     
  15. Deleted User x

    Deleted User x Member+

    Mar 21, 2006
    They should sign G. Rossi.
     
  16. TheAnswer1313

    TheAnswer1313 Member+

    Dec 12, 2007
    Charleston, WV
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Rossi does want to go to a Serie A team...........I think he's wanting Napoli tho lol
     
  17. Italy-Azzurri-Fan

    Nov 15, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Ugh, he won't get playing time at Napoli.
     
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  18. Hidegkuti78

    Hidegkuti78 Member

    Sep 2, 2015
    Club:
    ACF Fiorentina
    Gilardino has been signed by Spezia in Serie B
     
  19. forza_azzurri

    forza_azzurri Member

    May 31, 2005
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Let's worry about Seria A where teams like Shakhtar Donetsk are beating Napoli.
     
  20. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #1295 falvo, Nov 2, 2017
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2017
    Poor Gila. He was always a top goal scorer too bad he is finishing his career with the lower level teams.
     
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  21. Italy-Azzurri-Fan

    Nov 15, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I really liked this striker a lot. Gilardino was a great player!
     
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  22. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #1297 falvo, Nov 2, 2017
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2017
    You can't really compare the leagues for many reasons. Looking at the difference between the higher level Serie A teams and the bottom half of the league, there are worlds of difference. Even though the Serie B is tough, teams like one year wonders in Carpi, Novara, Benevento, Frosinone and Cesena couldn't survive physically, financially or for a longer period of time in MLS. Nor do they have the same revenues or stadia abd probably couldn't even come up with the cash to put forth a team. If anything, they would probably end up folding or not able to field a team from year to year. The teams near you in the Pacific Northwest in Vancouver or Seattle, could hold their own in Serie A. Maybe not the top half, but they could easily compete against the bottom placed clubs.
     
  23. TheAnswer1313

    TheAnswer1313 Member+

    Dec 12, 2007
    Charleston, WV
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    The one thing I like right now about Serie B is how competitive it is.

    Through 12 games only 8 points separates the 2nd place team and the 21st place team.

    If that kept up the entire season, that would have to be one of the most balanced leagues ever lol
     
  24. TheAnswer1313

    TheAnswer1313 Member+

    Dec 12, 2007
    Charleston, WV
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Yeah there is zero doubt in my mind a team like Toronto could compete with the bottom half of Serie A
     
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  25. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Looking at the difference between the Serie A & B. Palermo was in 19th place in the Serie A last year and 1st in the Serie B this season. The main problem is these teams can't compete for more than a season or two at a higher level.
     

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