Various stuff I found from the 40s - 60s

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  1. schwuppe

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    Some Brazilian player ranking dating back to 1942 (!) jornal.PNG
     
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  2. schwuppe

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    #2 schwuppe, Jan 8, 2019
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    WC 50 Brazilian Magazine O Globo Sportivo

    Pre tournament discussion of favorites
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    Ranking
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    Comment after the finals loss. The comment about Barbosa is amusing
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    Here we go again with Uruguay 4x
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  3. schwuppe

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    WC 54 (O Globo Sportivo)

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  4. schwuppe

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    WC 1958

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  6. schwuppe

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    Player rankings from Corriere dello Sport 1951

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  7. schwuppe

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    1952
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    1953
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  8. schwuppe

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    1955
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    1956
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    1957
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  9. schwuppe

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    1959
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    1960 (not final)

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    1961 (not final)

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    1962
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  10. schwuppe

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    1964

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    1966
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  11. schwuppe

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    1968
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  12. schwuppe

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    #12 schwuppe, Jan 10, 2019
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    The sources are available online btw:
    http://memoria.bn.br/hdb/periodico.aspx?aspxerrorpath=/hdb/maisacessados.aspx

    Type in "Sport" and you get a bunch of Brazilian newspapers. O Globo Sportivo is the best I found, but it sadly ends in 1952

    http://dlib.coninet.it/bookreader.php?&c=1&f=11443&p=1#page/1/mode/2up
    The site doesn't work proberly for me using it the intended way, I need to change the number in the URL to get a different date.

    To get a different year google "coninet corriere dello sport 19XX"
    It starts in 1944 and ends in 1972 I think. 1958, 1963, 1965, 1967 seem to be missing.

    I tried to find stuff about "Grande Torino", but they seem like an afterthought and most headlines are about cycling. The first really big mention I found was after the plane crash. Maybe it's due to the newspaper affiliation, I'm not aware of the biases of the time. The founder of "Tuttosport" died in the Superga disaster alongside the team so that newspaper might have been the primary Torino news source.

    The layout of the newspaper in the 40s and 50s especially is pretty confusing and it's easy to miss stuff though.
     
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  13. schwuppe

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    WC1950 team wasn't shown properly (for me at least)
    Source is Brazilian

    The only surprise might be that Zizinho isn't even ranked 1st for his position. It's just one guy's opinion so take it with a grain of salt.
     
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  14. msioux75

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    This ranking is for the last round only:
    Brazil vs Uruguay
    Sweden vs Spain
     
  15. schwuppe

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    Oh I see. Thanks for the correction.
    I was already wondering why Ramallets isnt listed, but some other Spanish GK
     
  16. msioux75

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    1965 Intercontinental Cup ratings by El Grafico
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  17. msioux75

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    #17 msioux75, May 12, 2019
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    All-Time Boca, 1965

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    1. Tesoriere
    2. Domingos da Guia
    3. Marzolini - LB
    4. C.Sosa - RH
    5. Lazzati
    6. Arico Suarez
    7. Boye
    8. Benitez Caceres
    9. Sarlanga
    10 Cherro
    11 Alberto Gonzalez

    Public poll with ex-players, journalists, managers, etc.
     
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    All-Time River, 1965

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    1. Carrizo
    2. Cuello - 30s
    3. E.Rodriguez - 40s
    4. Yacono
    5. Rossi
    6. J.Ramos - 40s
    7. JC.Muñoz
    8. Moreno
    9. Pedernera
    10 Labruna
    11 Loustau

    Public poll with ex-players, journalists, managers, etc.
     
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  19. msioux75

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    All-Time Racing, 1965
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    1. A.Rodriguez - 40s
    2. Dellacha
    3. Garcia Perez - 40s
    4. JC.Gimenez - 50s
    5. Balay - 50s
    6. E.Gutierrez - 50s
    7. Corbatta
    8. Mendez
    9. R.Bravo - 50s
    10 V.del Giudice - 30s / close was LL.Simes
    11 E.Garcia

    Public poll with ex-players, journalists, managers, etc.
     
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  20. msioux75

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    Pele comparing with argentine players

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    El Grafico chose him as World Best Player 1965. No other players mentioned, just that some brazilians are in poor form (Coutinho, Mengalvio, Garrincha)
     
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  21. msioux75

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    All-Time Independiente, 1966
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    1. F.Bello
    2. R.Navarro - 60s
    3. Coletta - 30s
    4. Ferreiro - 60s
    5. Corazzo - 30s
    6. C.Martinez - 30s
    7. R.Porta
    8. De la Mata
    9. Erico
    10 Sastre
    11 Orsi

    Public poll with ex-players, journalists, managers, etc
     
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  22. msioux75

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    All-Time San Lorenzo, 1966
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    1. Gualco
    2. P.Omar - 20s
    3. Basso
    4. Zubieta
    5. Monti
    6. Albretch
    7. Carricaberry
    8. Farro
    9. Pontoni
    10 Martino
    11 A.Arrieta

    The same as other polls, 35-40 people were asked to vote.
     
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  23. msioux75

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    #23 msioux75, May 17, 2019
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    WC 1966 XI, by EG

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  24. msioux75

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    All-Time Argentine Players, 1966

    A Poll with 1,000 voters (explayers, modern players, journalists)
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    Ideal Team by ex-players, by modern players, by journalists. And the players who were closer to #10.
     
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  25. msioux75

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    South America 1967 by EG
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