Vancouver Whitecaps News Thread & other media

Discussion in 'Vancouver Whitecaps' started by whiteisthecolour, Aug 20, 2010.

  1. hot potato

    hot potato Member+

    Feb 21, 2014
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    if the MLS does leave, where will a new team in the CPL play?? I believe the minimum # of seats for a stadium is 7 000- certainly, BC Place is far too big and I would be happy to see a facility with natural grass and no T&F space

    so what community outside Vancouver would be willing to see that happen, especially with the covid-19 issue crashing the economy ?

    and swangard would seem to be undoable due to its community policy for usage

    but I agree that in some ways that a CPL franchise would bring happiness back to the soccer supporters, even if it is semi-pro-- just too much doom, gloom, lies, betrayals and incompetence from the ownership group and the old-guard FO

    unless the existing owners try to sell the Club-MLS franchise and keep it in Vancouver- and with no stadium outside of BC Place which is a renter, so its hard to see it being profitable- I would have to agree with Old Fan... the franchise will be moved by around 2023-- money talks, owners/MLS walk across the border
     
  2. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The business case for Whitecaps was not good due to lack of stadium and now has to be significantly worse due to coronavirus. At same time, it is not a good time to sell a sport franchise due to all of the uncertainty. I find it hard to believe that you hire someone for 4 years and then part ways 6 months later without extraordinary circumstances playing a part and that those extraordinary circumstances aren’t most likely the very one’s staring us all in the face. I’m sure Pannes got some sort of buyout and will land on his feet and we won’t hear much from him about “why” due to the typical confidentiality agreement that goes with a buyout. Maybe there is more to it but you have to believe any vision in place at time of Pannes’s hire severely changed over last couple of months. Maybe I am way off.
     
  3. hot potato

    hot potato Member+

    Feb 21, 2014
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    NO, YOU ARE NOT WAY OFF

    the owners, IMO, have decided its time to down-size the franchise and any employee who contradicts their plan will be exited asap- hence, a high-quality sports executive like pannes, who no doubt wanted to succeed and be very competitive, was fired with a compensation package that will cause him to be muted

    what he believed he was coming into is much like the false messages- LIES- we supporters have been getting for many years - how a guy like jeff mallet can stomach this is beyond me!! I was hoping he had more integrity than greg kerfoot

    I wrote 5-6 years ago of how disgusted I was in the FO puppets and bob lenarduzzi being content with vying for a play-off position and having a home game every 3-4 years- nothing about winning the MLS Cup or the conference - we would always be competing to be at or near the play-off line-- and that was and still is the owners' vision- MEDIOCRITY AT BEST- developing players through the academy in order to sell them was also part of the vision, but NOT ONE has made it to the first team spot- talk about incompetence !!

    the message is now coming to be realized by most of the faithful supporters and the stands will be half-filled in the lower bowl for most games and the STs will be at the 6 000- 7 000 range for 2021

    ITS PROBABLY GAME-OVER FOR THE WHITECAPS IN MLS - the owners have executed their plan perfectly and will cash-out in a few years
     
  4. OldFan2015

    OldFan2015 Member

    Nov 29, 2015
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    On the positive side, professional soccer will not die in Vancouver. If the KerfootCaps end up in flames, someone else will get going here. We will have something even if we need a couple years off. We may even get the CPL while the KerfootCaps are still playing.

    I wish I VHSd all the 86er games on TSN back in the CSL days. It would be fun to have a bunch of games from that era. I know there are a few garbage copies on youtube, but it is minimal at best. Its a lost league in many ways as there is minimal archiving of stats and footage and it mostly lives in our collective memories. The MLS Caps pay minimal attention to that chapter as they went all in on trying to connect them to the 1979 Soccer Bowl caps.

    Same with the NASL, there is not a lot of game footage out there. I do have a complete run of Soccer Digest from 1977 - 1984 (minus a couple of missing issues from the 84 year)which is a comprehensive history of the NASL that can not be found any other way, and one day I may make a hobby of digitizing it and putting it online.
     
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  5. hot potato

    hot potato Member+

    Feb 21, 2014
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    after a +40 year relationship with the Whitecaps, i have had all my passion, loyalty and enthusiasm sucked out of me by this inept, callous, lying, disinterested ownership group

    some dig at the older FO people, such as anderson, lewis and lenarduzzi, but the truth is and always will be, IT ALL STARTS AT THE TOP

    as a passionate and loyal whitecap supporter- and sometimes through some lean years- i have never felt so drained and disconnected from this team

    unless the team is sold to different owners by 2021-2022, we all know that we will be continually served the same BS and lies... and professional soccer and MLS will be a distant memory in 3-4 years IMO
     
  6. OldFan2015

    OldFan2015 Member

    Nov 29, 2015
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    Losing the MLS may be the process we have to go through in order to get a professional club we can be proud of again. Sad as it may seem, but after the Pannes fiasco, can't ever take them seriously again (I didnt before, but I figured Pannes was a sign maybe they finally saw some light;' how wrong it was on that).

    We have had multiple leagues and team names going back to the Royals. We can most certainly accept that this does not have to be "whitecaps" and "MLS" in order to be a healthy thriving part of Vancouver sports.
     
  7. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  8. OldFan2015

    OldFan2015 Member

    Nov 29, 2015
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    ^this is just the beginning. It will be hard for players not to be catching it as it is all over Florida right now. More will test positive and I have to wonder if this tournament will even finish. Will depend if a team loses enough of their gameday 18 to have to forfeit.

    This will be fascinating to see.
     

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