Valdano: Roma better than Juve, Inter, and Milan

Discussion in 'Italy' started by fischetts, May 9, 2003.

  1. fischetts

    fischetts New Member

    Sep 16, 2002
    Long Island/Baltimor
    Real's Director Jorge Valdano has claimed that Roma are the best side in Italy.

    Mind games?
     
  2. scd84

    scd84 Member

    Jan 1, 2003
    Columbus
    He's been talking to Wenger too much.
     
  3. BadReligion

    BadReligion New Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    Washington, DC
    Their position in Serie A certainly proves otherwise...
     
  4. Mario

    Mario New Member

    Mar 11, 2000
    San Salvador, El Sal
    Valdano is a complete ignorant! as Bad Religion points out the standings dont lie!
     
  5. Toffees_rule

    Toffees_rule New Member

    Feb 11, 2000
    SFSU
    yeah, Roma don't have the depth to compete with Juve or Milan. However, I have to say the Inter one is up for debate. If Roma can get stronger in the centre of the park and and bench depth the no question they'd be on par with Juve and Milan.

    But as it currently stands Juve and Milan are the two best sides, after that it gets muddled but you can honestly put the likes of Inter, Roma and Parma in the next bit of teams.
     
  6. Mario

    Mario New Member

    Mar 11, 2000
    San Salvador, El Sal
    Actually i disagree about Inter, they have a very good crop of players (even in the bench!) latinamerican stars like colombian intl Cordoba, paraguayan intl Gamarra, uruguayan intl Recoba, argentines like Crespo and Batistuta, Italy's best gk Toldo, defenders like Cannavaro and Materazzi and goalscorers like Vieri, Obafemi Martins and Morfeo! they underperform because Cuper tends to defend way too much and that hurt that team!
     
  7. BadReligion

    BadReligion New Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    Washington, DC
    I agree. Most people count Inter out for basically revolving their attack around Christian Vieri, when in all honestly their a very good team. Although they don't have the depth of their city rivals (except maybe in the forward area. Vieri, Crespo, Batigol, Recoba make up a pretty decent set), they still are a pretty solid club. Plus, they'll probably be bringing in more talent over the summer, possibly Beckham if he doesn't go to Real, although its a longshot.
     
  8. Toffees_rule

    Toffees_rule New Member

    Feb 11, 2000
    SFSU
    I thought they wanted Giggs. :confused: When did all of the Beckham rumours surface?
     
  9. Toffees_rule

    Toffees_rule New Member

    Feb 11, 2000
    SFSU
    I think you have to put the manager into the equation as well. He is the man who is responsible for using the tools at his disposal to get the best of their ability. Capello, (not this season) has done that, Cuper hasn't. Lippi has and so has his counterpart at Milan whom I can't think to name at the moment.

    I don't think anyone could readily argue that Inter wouldn't have missed out on the scudetto so early had Capello, who is more offensive, had been conducting traffic.
     
  10. Mario

    Mario New Member

    Mar 11, 2000
    San Salvador, El Sal
    Ancelotti is the name you're looking at.

    I think Capello had major issues with Franco Sensi (chairman) this season, thats why he failed, now on Inter's case I'd have to say Cuper uses a catenaccio style as of late, relying on Vieri to solve the problem, granted, Vieri is a major hitman but the extreme conservadurism(sp?) that shows Cuper is nothing but a lack of confidence in his squad!
     
  11. Toffees_rule

    Toffees_rule New Member

    Feb 11, 2000
    SFSU
    Ah, cheers for the name. I agree about Capello's issues with Franco, but injuries and some prima donnas...Casano...also kept the squad from jelling and being the squad from 2000. Not to mention the fall out with Batigol.

    (I think the spelling you're looking for is conservatism.)

    Yeah, as far a Cuper is concerned, I think the man could kill Real Madrid. This is why I say comparing Roma and Inter is tricky, in terms of talent Inter leads, no question; but in terms of who has the better tactician as manager who can get better results for his team, advantage goes to Roma and Capello.

    ultimately it's all about results, and while Inter have had better results this year than Roma, I don't expect that to be the case next season. Especially if we pick up Dacourt and some threats up top and on the flanks.
     
  12. Mario

    Mario New Member

    Mar 11, 2000
    San Salvador, El Sal
    conservatism yes!

    Exactly, the summer moves will dictate who wins in both tactical and moral fields.

    Capello is talented, no doubt about it, I wouldnt dare to question his abilities, just recently he lead Roma to win a scudetto (two years ago) and last season finished second behind my beloved bianconeri he succeeded with Real Madrid too, so its mental issue as well as those causes you listed above.
     
  13. tedwar

    tedwar Member

    Jun 24, 1999
    Richmond, CA-EastBay
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Roma does have a talented squad, but injuries and Totti not at the top of his game combine for a disappointing season. And, did any 'big' club play worse during the Champs League (exclusing Arsenal perhaps).

    When Cuper left Valencia, wasn't the attitude "don't let the door hit you on the way out"?
    For all the credit Cuper got for building Valencia, both Valencia and Inter have fallen at the final hurdle in recent years.

    Tony
     
  14. Mario

    Mario New Member

    Mar 11, 2000
    San Salvador, El Sal
    Word. Yet another season Cuper without a title! at least it wasnt at the final vs either Juve or madrid! :p
     

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