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Discussion in 'USA Women: News and Analysis' started by winster, Aug 21, 2021.
Lloyd now has five goals for the night.
you are going to get carpal tunnel with the updates
You did not mention Lloyd's 4, count 'em, 4 goals. (She scored her 5th as I was typing)
As much as I love to se a good performance by the USWNT this is absurd. It is good to see continued effort but the opponent is little more than practice cones. A mid level HS team could play better than Paraguay.
they would give Asian champions Thailand a pretty good game.
Heath makes it 9-0
I don't think so. Thailand is MUCH better than what we see wandering around the field tonight. Thailand was poor but they have improved a LOT.
USA 9 Paraguay 0
Double comb achieved
Lloyd even outscored the rest of the USWNT 5-4.
Don’t get too smug. The Men’s futsal World Cup is ongoing. The USA got beat 11-0 by Argentina in the opening match a few days ago.
This game was a joke.
It was like playing against a Sunday league team. So lopsided and unfair I stopped watching after the 5th goal because it was getting quite cringey.
They were clearly not ready for the speed of thought needed against a top team, and I thought the keeper just didn't have the reflexes. But overall I thought they gained on it quite well through the game, and I didn't think they were all that badly overmatched physically. They just weren't sharp enough, quick enough, alert enough, because they hadn't seen that level of play enough. Don't be shocked if they are much more competitive in a few days.
I really liked Pugh and Sullivan's games which is something of a relief, and I liked a lot about Williams's as well; I know it wasn't strong opposition, but still, better choices are better choices... Macario did a lot of good stuff too, even though none of it really came to anything.
But I am starting to wonder if Smith will ever have her breakthrough moment...
Its pretty much like that worldwide. Spain against Faroe Islands 10-0, Norway against Armenia 10-0, Denmark vs Malta 7-0, etc.
So are qualifiers for uefa teams where they run up the scores on cupcake teams like the faroe island...
looks like going to be hard to find strong competition as well for the She Believes Cup. England has just announced their own version and they already signed up Spain & Germany. France has had its own for the last couple years. There’s the Asia qualifiers this time around that will tie up both Japan & Australia, and then there’s still the Algarve Cup, which the Swedes particularly like since it means warmer weather.
There’s talk of a two game trip to Australia in November, but just about all their players are now based in Europe, so jet lag might be more exhausting for them then it is for us
All this means that Vlatko will most likely continue to save his job by playing & beating tomato cans like Paraguay
Only ones that can provide some at least would be Canada and Brazil. I pick Mexico as well since they need some competitive games and get better, this is the best way against teams like US and Canada along with Brazil.
Well I watched the Denmark and Norway games and the teams they played would have given us a better game then what Paraguay was able to do. And really was it necessary to let Lloyd score all those goals. What purpose did it really serve. And to listen to the one commentator carry on about getting the 6th the goal. Really? And why didn't Vlatko make the switch of players at the start of the 2nd half, instead of waiting like he did. Was it necessary to have Lloyd play the whole game, and is he planning on having her play all the games that way so she can run up her goal count.
I didn't like the way he handled the Olympic mess and this game was just another negative for him.
Paraguay is Paraguay. They've never made the World Cup or Olympics but did make the Pan Am games twice. Their only other game this year is a 7-0 loss to Japan. I doubt they would be a blip on the radar in the next 20 years.
Added: Come back in a few days and if the score is closer than 5 goals Ill concede that Paraguay isn't a total joke of a team.
The only thing that game was good for was $$$$$$ and to allow Carli to run up her stats. Yes she got 5 goals against a invisible defense. Kind of glad she didnt get that 6th but who knows... we get to play them again so maybe!!!!
Carli has been good for a long time. Its kind of embarrassing for her to run up the score against a team any number of Div 1 soccer teams could easily beat. Not a good way to go out
then play Australia in the USA. Problem solved
They could get better comp playing a college team. Don't know how you can evaluate any player from that mess?
Canada & Brazil did play in France’s debut tournament previously, but it got canceled this year due to covid. So who knows where they want to play next spring; flash those shiny gold medals at the playgrounds of Monte Carlo or the steps of Versailles……or come play their faded older sisters in……where’s we’re playing next, oh yeah, Cleveland
I believe everyone here knows how I feel about Vlatko Andonovski's coaching but this tour is a "victory" tour not a development series of friendlies. In particular it has also gained the label of being "Lloyd's" retirement tour. That means that a lot of fans are expecting to see the stalwarts of the USWNT play as much as possible and they want to see goals and, if possible, records challenged or broken. Most "fans" attending these matches care very little about the finer nuances of the match. All they want to see is goals preferably scored by their favorites.
This was exactly what I expected but I really did not know how horrendously bad Paraguay is.
As far as going for Lloyd's 6th goal I actually was hoping for it too come early in the second half. It did not so she stayed in trying to get the record. I would not be surprised if she plays all 90 mins in the next match as well. Vlatko is trying to give the fans what they want and that I cannot fault him for.
The only thing really positive I took from this match is that we have several free kick takers that showed that they are at least as good as the one that was missing. Pugh's free kicks looked to be the best of the lot but there were at least three that showed that they are quite good even excellent most of the time. The only thing about free kicks we really did not learn is if the kickers can produce under pressure.
My expectations for this tour was exactly met.
Teams need to practice running up scores when they can because in most tournaments the first tiebreaker is goal differential and most of the rest have "goals" as the major part of what matters.
As far as the commentators go: Someone needs to inform Foudy that endless rambling about the past is trivia is booring and detracts fro, at least my, enjoyment of the match. The overall production was also pretty bad, Long lingering frames of Vlatko in closeup is much more nauseating than closeups of a pile of dog excrement particularly when the match is being played.
I expect little more from US TV production but it would be good if the distractions could be eliminated.
I have also been watching a bit of the English football and they have begun using replay too much as well and we miss some of the action. That shows that even they believe that fans are not able to wait for real breaks to see replays. I guess we have too short attention spans to remember to watch after more than a minute as passed.
This match was, mostly, exactly what I expected but I do wish the team we played was at least good enough to make the outcome a little in doubt. After the first 10 minutes the only thing in doubt was how many goals would be scored and by which player(s).