Post-match: USMNT v Saudi Arabia (Gold Cup)

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by nbarbour, Jun 19, 2025.

  1. Calling BS

    Calling BS Member+

    Orlando City
    United States
    Jan 25, 2020
    for as little as McGlynn was on the ball, he sure seemed to complete the most passes to players in dangerous spots. For those with access to advanced stats, It’d be interesting to see who completed passes in the final third and their passing percentages in the final third. Especially for the 1st half.
     
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  2. Yowza

    Yowza Member+

    DC United
    United States
    Oct 23, 2019
    Arlington
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A lot of people touched on it including Donovan but McGlynn is wasted glued to the touchline. He’ll never dribble anyone and it’s just going to lead to back passing. Anyone can do that.
    It was better later in the half when he ventured into the middle and started to combine.
    McGlynn is not a plug and play type, Poch has to figure out where he helps the most and hurts the least. Work in progress.
     
  3. keller4president

    Jan 5, 2006
    Next question: are Berhalter and LDLT any better than Julian Green?
     
  4. imasyko

    imasyko Member+

    May 16, 2002
    Spring City, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't we wish...
     
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  5. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Ream 15
    Berhalter 14
    McGlynn 8
    Freeman 6
    Arfsten 5
    Richards 5
    LDLT 3
    Luna 2
    Tillman 2
     
  6. Yowza

    Yowza Member+

    DC United
    United States
    Oct 23, 2019
    Arlington
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Haha I have no idea haven’t seen Green play in a decade. He’s an old head now, maybe there’s something there but it seems his time with US has passed.
     
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  7. Calling BS

    Calling BS Member+

    Orlando City
    United States
    Jan 25, 2020
    you’re just non stop with listing all these difference makers. Guys who have excelled at winning games for the US.
     
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  8. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
    In the 1994 WC there were many games played in brutal midday heat, particularly in southern cities. The main reason for this was so European TV audiences could catch the kickoff after they got home from work. We'll see if FIFA will be so accommodating to them this time around.
     
  9. keller4president

    Jan 5, 2006
    I mean Green has scored in a World Cup. He’s older, but more experienced.
     
  10. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    I can only assume game plan. Or maybe he had a poor decision making day. Or maybe the RB was quicker than him, though he didn't test it much. Or maybe the outlets in the box weren't in the right spot?

    My best guess: the gameplan was to run the ball through the middle and overall play fairly conservative. And the team as a whole isn't going to be great at adjusting on the fly since the other players need to be thinking he might cross it as well and likely were looking to the pass to the middle.

    Definitely should have adjusted and tried it more.

    But I've seen enough Columbus to know (a) he's not shy and (b) he absolutely has nice left foot. The issue isn't technical ability, whatever it was.
     
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  11. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    I don't have real advanced stats, but Fotmob has him leading in chances created (2), xA (.46) and behind only Ream and Berhalter with passes into the final third (8). Berhalter is the only other person with any xA to speak of (.26).

    xA isn't all-encompassing and there were plenty of nice passes that didn't lead to a shot, but still, it's a big lead.
     
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  12. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Yes.
     
  13. Reccossu

    Reccossu Member+

    Jan 31, 2005
    Birmingham
    No.
     
  14. Kirium

    Kirium Member+

    Jun 18, 2007
    Edmond, OK
    this time many of the southern venues are in domes/climate controlled stadiums:

    Dallas- climate controlled
    Houston - climate controlled
    Atlanta - climate controlled
    Miami - Open air
    Kansas City - Open Air
     
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  15. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Getting conflicting reports here...
     
  16. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    Is busio that useful?
     
  17. Shaster

    Shaster Member+

    Apr 13, 1999
    El Cerrito, CA, USA
    Berhalter is an interesting case (if we can see more of him vs. strong teams, like moving to Europe). But a lot of our players in this spot are psychically not strong enough. Strong guy like Wes, Musah, Tessmann, etc are needed to fight big teams.
     
  18. Mahtzo1

    Mahtzo1 Member+

    Jan 15, 2007
    So Cal
    and he's a starter on a bottom half B2 team where he's scored as well....
     
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  19. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    To different questions, though.
     
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  20. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also, if you want to use McGlynn as a traditional, chalk-on-boots winger, he's on the wrong side.
     
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  21. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    Vince used the analogy of some hopeless NBA player who shoots 17% from 3, being sagged off of when he sets up for a 3. That's how their defense was treating ARF, and they were right, he did ---- all w/countless possessions, where they went to die over and over and over again, why on earth they'd keep starting Freeman but not use him like Orlando likes to.....yeah, it was just, patently obvious the Saudi's were totally fine with Arf having the ball out there, rather than Tillman or Luna.
     
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  22. Mahtzo1

    Mahtzo1 Member+

    Jan 15, 2007
    So Cal
    The middle was definitely packed but there was very little movement...especially diagonal movement to open up and create space for a runner to follow. That type of movement and space where a US player could have run onto a ball in space instead of a static player receiving a ball in is more dangerous imo. Arfsten and McGlynn played wide and the crosses, to some extent, created a little extra space when the defense shifted but those spaces opened and closed relatively quickly and when the ball was passed into those spaces defenders were able to close it down from 360 degrees.
     
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  23. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    it was a joke
     
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  24. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    well you have seen him in Ohio and I have not.

    so must have been the game plan.

    he was on the side of the pitch next to Poch so I wonder if Poch told him not to be brave and just take it to the end line?
     
  25. Mantis Toboggan M.D.

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jul 8, 2017
    I did think in the 2022 cycle that we could've used Green, agree that by now his time has passed though
     

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