USMNT Transfer Watch - Movers and Shakers

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  1. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

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    May 12, 2019
    I suspect they did okay as most Western European countries / the EU have some pretty strong laws around layoffs and severance.
     
  2. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    But also a yellow card machine
     
  3. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

    Aug 17, 2016
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    According to Gemini:

    While the story you heard contains some factual elements, it blends a few different events from the bank's long history in Bournemouth. Here is the breakdown of what is true, what is likely a misunderstanding, and the current situation.

    1. The "Relocation" from London
    It is true that JPMorgan (the parent of Chase) famously moved a massive portion of its operations from London to Bournemouth, but this wasn't a recent "change of heart."

    The Original Move: This happened way back in 1986. At the time, it was one of the largest corporate relocations in UK history. The bank moved its technology and back-office operations to the "Chaseside" campus to save on London real estate costs.

    Ongoing Shifts: Over the decades, there have been several smaller waves where specific teams (particularly in Technology and Operations) were moved from London to Bournemouth to further reduce overhead.

    2. The "Changing Minds" and Layoffs
    The idea that they "changed their minds" and laid everyone off immediately after a move is likely a conflation of two separate, more recent issues:

    The 2025/2026 Layoffs: Throughout 2025 and into early 2026, JPMorgan Chase has been conducting several rounds of layoffs globally. These aren't specific to Bournemouth—they’ve hit London, New York, and Houston as well. In mid-2025, the bank specifically noted that about 10% of its operations division (which is exactly what the Bournemouth site focuses on) would be reduced due to increased efficiency from AI.
    +1

    The Return-to-Office (RTO) Clash: There was a major "change of heart" regarding remote work. After the pandemic, many staff moved further away from offices (or to the coast). In early 2025, the bank mandated a strict five-day-a-week return to the office. This caused significant friction, as people who had relocated under the assumption of hybrid work were suddenly forced to commute or quit.
    +1

    3. The Current Status of Bournemouth
    Contrary to the idea of the bank abandoning the location, they are actually doubling down on it:

    Massive Investment: In October 2025, JPMorgan announced a £350 million investment to modernize the Bournemouth campus into a "world-class technology hub."

    Staffing: Bournemouth remains the bank's largest site outside of London, currently employing over 5,000 people.
     
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  4. iad_22201

    iad_22201 Member+

    Jan 2, 2009
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #7129 iad_22201, Mar 6, 2026
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    Eh, it absolutely does. You're buying a player who will have a greatly reduced resale value at the end of the contract not to mention there would some concern that at that age the player might not be in his prime in the last year or two of the deal. As for comparing him to recent DM purchases in the PL, three of those were ~23, so we're talking about players who 1) might further develop as players after that sale and 2) should still have significant transfer value near the end of their contract. The other is simply one of the best all around DM's in the game. A better comparison for me is Joao Palhinha who Fulham sold a couple days after his 29th birthday. He was 1) a better pure destroyer than TA and 2) offered more going forward...a better player all around player (who also didn't have the injury history of TA) and he went for ~£45M. For me ~£40M for Tyler seems like just about the high end limit, and that's if his injury history doesn't concern you. £60M for a TA without the injury history (as one poster suggested)...you're having a laugh.
     
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  5. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

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    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
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    I know they opened the Bournemouth office in 1986 (that's when I moved to London) but they moved their back office operations in the 1990s. The story at the time was a lot of people who had moved were laid off shortly afterwards. But Chase are a hire and fire company (like Merrill) they tend to lay off hundreds and 6 months later starting hiring again like crazy, or they used to anyway.
     
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  6. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I won’t hold that against the town.
     
  7. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
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    United States
    Please, no with the AI slop. Yuck.
     
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  8. OWN(yewu)ED

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    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  9. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Would be a good Gozo spot too but seems like he’s going to go to the EPL or something like that.
     
  10. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nothing new here. Reports in the UK continue to say that big clubs are after Antonee, with Liverpool being his desired destination.
     
  11. iad_22201

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    Jan 2, 2009
    Washington, DC
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    Fulham FC
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    United States
    #7136 iad_22201, Mar 12, 2026
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    Nothing new here is right. Given the source (Team Talk is one of the worst out there) this looks like a recycled rumor from last summer or earlier. If you've watched Antonee so far this season it's extremely difficult to imagine that any club would play ~$30M for him. He hasn't looked particularly close to the player he was before the surgery. Hell, even if he was the same player ~$30M is pushing it for a 29 year old (age he'll be at start of next season) with his limitations.
     
  12. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

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    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And Liverpool already have a capable aging backup left-back in Andy Robertson.
     
  13. iad_22201

    iad_22201 Member+

    Jan 2, 2009
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pepi to Fulham is apparently "imminent" according to one of the more reliable journalists covering PSV (@RikElfrink, article behind a paywall). The article also apparently says that Dest is also likely to leave PSV this summer.
     
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  14. Clint Eastwood

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    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Not for much longer, which is the point.......................
    Liverpool 'agree' Celtic deal as big Andy Robertson update drops

    Clubs can always use help at left back. :)

    Let's not forget that Fulham's coach is out of contract this summer. That might influence what's going on there. Who knows? It might be a bit of a reset.

    Tyler Adams' coach is also out of contract.

    As is, famously, Chris Richards' coach.
     
  15. OWN(yewu)ED

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    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jonathon klinsmann also got a new coach…….. Ashley Cole. His team sits precariously in last playoff spot and have been slipping , thus the reason for the new coach hire I imagine
     
  16. iad_22201

    iad_22201 Member+

    Jan 2, 2009
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #7141 iad_22201, Mar 16, 2026
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    I think Fulham would bite a club's hand off for ~$30M for Antonee Robinson this summer. But at age 29, coming off an injury and playing like he's played so far this season (he was ok yesterday, but still not anywhere close to his best...and even at his best there were aspects to his game that made me skeptical of a move to a top club) nobody is going to be willing to pay that. Again, that report you linked to the other day is an old recycled rumor from one of the worst transfer sources out there.
     
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  17. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

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    Apr 18, 2015
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    Robertson rumor based on a sighting at a Celtic game. He's a lifelong Celtic fan.

    That article goes on to say that he may consider Celtic if Liverpool decide they don't want him.
     
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  18. iad_22201

    iad_22201 Member+

    Jan 2, 2009
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A couple of updates on Pepi to Fulham.


     
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  19. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
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    United States
    So this is for now or the fall?
     
  20. OWN(yewu)ED

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    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    summer surely.

    Im curious of Dest's landing spot.
     
  21. kickin365

    kickin365 Member+

    Mar 4, 2002
    NJ
    With the transfer windows closed, why are Pepi deals being talked about now. Is this a pre-deal that will go through when the window opens? Seems very odd this far out of so.
     
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  22. iad_22201

    iad_22201 Member+

    Jan 2, 2009
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes. Fulham wanted him in January but couldn't get the deal over the line (reporting suggested PSV was open to the deal but eventually decided they didn't want to lose him in January) but there were reports immediately after deadline day that both sides were open to completing a deal before the summer.
     
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  23. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was also confused by this because of the he's getting a medical part. Maybe that's common on a pre-deal but he could get hurt before fall.
     
  24. kickin365

    kickin365 Member+

    Mar 4, 2002
    NJ
    Right. He will probably need a second medical in the summer. Surely has clauses for situations.
     
  25. iad_22201

    iad_22201 Member+

    Jan 2, 2009
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It would certainly make sense. I imagine the acquiring club would like to confirm there are no chronic/preexisting issues before finalizing the deal.
     

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