USMNT Transfer Watch - Movers and Shakers

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  1. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    We also see in Palace the reason so few outside of the "big boys" can make a sustained push at the top of the table.

    The second a club like Bournemouth or Palace start to surge, all of their good players are purchased. They can't compete with the salaries and opportunities offered by the "big boys" in Europe. Usually they lose their managers too. Brighton. Imagine if Brighton could actually sign their players to long-term contracts.

    It doesn't even matter if the opportunity doesn't really turn out to be all that good. Bournemouth lost 3/4s of theiir backline from last year in the transfer window (who'd only been on loan). What is Dean Huijsen doing at Real Madrid? Now they've had to sell Semenyo too? Maybe somebody else will have to go in the summer?

    One can see Palace or Bournemouth being relegated next year in the way Wolves are. Wolves had talent that was all poached.

    Glasner at Palace can be mad and feel abandoned all he wants. Palace leadership had a choice. Sell Guehi for something now or lose him for nothing in the summer. They chose the money now.

    Maybe Juventus will make the same decision with Weston McKennie.
     
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  2. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And it's not his fault they're not in the Europa League.
     
  3. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The big teams picking on the carcasses of the lesser teams is why MLS has a better league for all of the fans instead of the fans of just the 2-4 top teams.
     
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  4. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Liverpool offer was way less than what Newcastle had offered year before (about half as much).
     
  5. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pepi

     
  6. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't believe that fans of other leagues share your odd opinion. Did Seattle pick at the carcass of FC Dallas for Jesus and Arriola?
     
  7. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's saying that Man City, Liverpool etc pick the carcasses of the lesser EPL teams, though it applies across UEFA. Look at Bournemouth.
     
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  8. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Weekend Review: Italy:

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    Gazzetta dello Sport player ratings: 1=low; 10-high.

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  9. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In a salary cap league teams move players for financial reasons at times. The difference being the acquiring team has the same financial rules. In most other leagues the haves just buy from the have nots and there isn't a rule that makes them even (I should say more even).
     
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  10. iad_22201

    iad_22201 Member+

    Jan 2, 2009
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  11. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I agree with the general tenor of the post but I have a quibble. Bournemouth is in a small town and has a small stadium (11307 capacity). This sustained presence in the Premier League is punching way, way above their weight.
     
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  12. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Crystal Palace is a small club with a small stadium in a suburb of London, who have been bankrupt twice in the last 25 years. Brentford is a small club with a small stadium in a suburb of London. Burnley and Wolverhampton are small clubs from small towns though both have had periods of success. Brighton is a small club from a small town that were playing in a track and field stadium a few years ago. Fulham has been in the shadow of Chelsea, and not that long ago QPR, for decades and share a catchment area with multiple teams. Forest play in a slightly bigger city but share the city with another team and their metro area with Leicester and Derby.

    But anyhoo, the point is that players aspire to bigger clubs in bigger towns, who play bigger salaries and can almost guarantee continental competition.

    MLS doesn't really have that problem as salaries are capped and no-one is guaranteed a CCC spot.
     
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  13. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It is a pyramid in every single league on the planet. It does not lessen fans interest in their team, in fact it may enhance it.
     
  14. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Australian A-League is not a pyramid. LigaMX is also currently not a pyramid either.
     
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  15. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    None of that matters for fans. Your post that MLS is a better league for all the fans is just not true.

    Nobody in their right mind believes that FC Dallas has the same shot at winning a MLS Cup as LA Gals or LAFC. Should not matter to Dallas fans.

    Similarly as a Schalke supporter nobody believes that we have the same shot to win the BuLi as FC Hollywood yet The Veltins Arena is still sold out 61,000+ supports every match. 2nd year in 2BL guess what the arena is still sold out every single match.
     
  16. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The MLS is even less of a pyramid than LigaMX IMO... and that is why I love the MLS so much. Teams can go from the bottom to the top in a single offseason. Heck, I finally got a home soccer team in SDFC last season and they won the West in their first season. I watch the BL, EPL, Serie A etc... but I think it's a terrible look that the same set of teams win the trophies every year. The BL is the worst of all.... Bayern wins the league 9 times out of 10. It's stupid. Again, I can only speak of my own opinion but I didn't stop watching baseball because I stopped loving the game... I stopped watching because the Dodgers win every year. Since they are one of the most popular teams worldwide it might increase interest in the game overall even though it turns off fans of smaller market teams like me.
     
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  17. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It will never be completely even.... It's not a random number generator. But MLS is the fairest soccer league there is IMO.
     
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  18. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not sure what you are saying? Both Australia and Mexico have lower level leagues and traditionally stronger teams in each league.
     
  19. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So does MLS.......... is USL not a lower level set of leagues? Neither of these countries currently have pro/rel. Which is typically what having a pyramid implies.

    Who are the traditionally stronger teams in the A-League again? The A-League has a very similar structure to that of MLS.

    LigaMX has a lot of parity, despite some teams having a spending advantage. Their split season format makes for a compelling compeition where almost any team can win in a given season.
     
  20. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    They do?

    Sorry misread: thought you were suggesting Aus and MX had traditionally big teams in their second divisions.

    A league has a AU$3 million hard cap + one marquee player.
     
  21. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Relegation in Liga MX is suspended since 2020 and before that relegation clubs were "purchasing" their ascension back in that very same year. They might reinstate next year but there will be strict financial requirements.

    A-League is the only professional league in Australia and New Zealand. There will be new second division leagues in both places soon.
     
  22. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Of course, the A-league is only 12 teams and a couple of them are really hanging on financially.
    For instance, the league is currently operating Central Coast Mariners as they're without an owner.
    Last week their academy went into "liquidation."
    A-League: APL 'takes over' Central Coast Mariners with club set to be sold

    The A-league and MLS are apples and oranges these days, particularly from a financial power point of view in the transfermarkt.

    I dont' know what the rules are anymore in MLS based on how Inter Miami is behaving.

    [Speaking of that, if an MLS owner wanted to become a multi-club owner........................they should acquire Central Coast Mariners. One of these guys who has more money than they know what to do with.]
     
  23. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They're the same as in the CBA. Miami accrued a ton of GAM and now they're spending it.
     
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  24. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
     
  25. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    And that's a downer.
     
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