USMNT Transfer Watch - Movers and Shakers

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Eleven Bravo, Jan 11, 2021.

  1. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    Patience is often the best policy for players that are riding the pine or struggling. Sargent had a rough first year with Norwich. Richards struggled for playing time at Crystal Palace for his first season and a half.

    Patience grasshopper. I think this applies in particular to Reyna at Dortmund and Balogun at Monaco.
     
  2. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  3. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
     
  4. eagercolin

    eagercolin Member

    Metro
    United States
    Aug 25, 2017
    Buffalo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What is bio-banding?
     
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  5. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Trying to figure out how he can sign with them before he’s 18. Uganda was a former British colony, not a French one, so that’s not it.
     
  6. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    "He's eligible for France, USA, and Uganda."

    I suspect the bolded part is it. ;)
     
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  7. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I meant, is his mom French?
     
  8. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But like Cavan Sullivan is eligible for Germany but he still couldn’t go there before 16.

    I think his family would have to move.
     
  9. don Lamb

    don Lamb Member+

    mine
    United States
    Aug 31, 2017
    It's when you place players based on their developmental characteristics instead of their birth date. It's generally done so that smaller players can play down a year, which is what it sounds like he was doing as an '08 playing U15 last year.
     
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  10. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
     
  11. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He could if he obtained German citizenship.
     
  12. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I believe he still couldn’t (and he likely already has the German citizenship). The same way for Albert his parents had to move there.

    As a general rule a minor cannot relocate countries to sign with a club unless their parents have a legitimate move to that country. And one of the exceptions is you can do so at 16 if it’s within the EU. You can also do so if you are within 50 kilometers of a countries border and the club itself is within 50 kilometers of the border on the other side (this is how San Diego is going to be able to recruit players from Mexico).
     
  13. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    The move I like best this window is McKenzie to Toulouse. Definitely a step or two up. But not such a big leap that he is likely to struggle for playing time. With our CB situation, that's the position (other than goalie) where we need our younger players to get as much seasoning as possible.

    I also like Morris to Boro and Wiley to Strasbourg, even as part of the loan army.
     
  14. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That applies to foreign children, including citizens of other countries.

    If he had German citizenship and the legal right to live in Germany he would be able to live and play in Germany.

    For instance, if his grandparents living in Germany adopted him.
     
  15. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Grandparents aren’t enough unless parents are deceased or parental authority is taken away by a legal authority. He can’t just go live with his grandparents in Germany and have them adopt him. They can’t adopt him purely for soccer reasons.
     
  16. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah it's down to the courts.

    But the FIFA rules you quoted apply to under 18 foreign citizens.
     
  17. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But it applies to Cavan Sullivan and other similarly situated players. For the purposes of FIFA his German citizenship doesn’t have any relevancy until he turns 16. It is still considered an international transfer.
     
  18. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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  19. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What are his chances of playing there?
     
  20. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  21. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
     
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  22. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Update on this since it was so controversial at the time:

    - Wiley got called up to the USMNT over Tolkin (who has 1G 0A this year after 3G 6A last year)

    - NYRB didn't sign the forward they needed and still can't score goals or win games
     
  23. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  24. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pepi too?
     
  25. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I imagine Juventus have scouts at every international match.
     

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