How the hell does a third division Austrian club afford THAT!?!?!? Man, Football Manager has been lying to me all these years.
Former FCD academy player. [Antonio Carrera's older brother.] Nico Carrera ('02) has joined Toluca in LigaMX. He will probably start with the U-23's with the chance to move up to the first team. https://t.co/v3Aa8oGrlZ— USMNTProspects (@ProspectsUsmnt) July 5, 2024
Another player possibly on his way to Mexico. Liga MX sure seems to be ramping up their recruitment of Americans. No? 🚨Juárez abrió negociaciones por Richard Ledezma e hizo una oferta formal para comprar un porcentaje del pase del estadounidense-mexicano que juega en el PSV.👀Otros clubes mexicanos también lo tienen en el radar. pic.twitter.com/Va4WkR3YLm— César Luis Merlo (@CLMerlo) July 4, 2024
This seems like a good deal. Wiley on the verge of being sold to Chelsea and then loaned to Strasbourg in France. Sounds good. Here's the "scoop"🍦on Caleb Wiley's possible transfer with @tombogert. For more of Tom's scoops and takes, tune in to Soccerwise with co-host @empiregass every Tues and Thurs at 2pm ET. https://t.co/Ohc6AoyXeb pic.twitter.com/NIvyXDUPjW— Soccerwise (@SoccerwiseHQ) July 5, 2024
I think he'd be better off going straight to Strasbourg rather submitting to perma-loan hell. Remember Matt Miazga 2016–2018→ Vitesse (loan) 2018–2019→ Nantes (loan) 2019–2020→ Reading (loan) 2020–2021→ Anderlecht (loan) 2021–2022→ Alavés (loan) 2021– FC Cincinnati
Wiley to stratsbourg is a very good day. Makes the need to call up Dejuan jones for Olympics all the more important if that goes down
That would be better but I imagine there are financial considerations. For this season, it’s a very good move. After that, it could go Miazga and that’s a worry for another day for this fan.
Chelsea throw talent against the wall to see what sticks. Poor old Gaga spent the season playing with a terrible team in a tiny stadium that looks like a public park. The upside is that if either does break into the Chelsea squad then they'll be in the elite.
Stratsbourg at least provides a very clear path and plan. Versus having to try and find a new loan each year.
Sources: Chelsea are progressing in talks with Atlanta United to sign rising American left back Caleb Wiley.No deal is done/agreed yet still, but sources are optimistic. Still plan to go on loan to Strasbourg.Deal could be in the region of $10m, but obviously fluid situation. pic.twitter.com/YWPKz04WWg— Tom Bogert (@tombogert) July 6, 2024
Latest on FC Cincinnati’s pursuit of USMNT midfielder Weston McKennie: The situation has cooled, I’m told. pic.twitter.com/KBMRHGUEwF— Tom Bogert (@tombogert) July 7, 2024
🚨 Chelsea reach agreement in principle with Atlanta United to sign Caleb Wiley. Fee for 19yo #USMNT left-back ~£8.5m. 7yr deal. Set to be loaned to Strasbourg for regular 1st team action. Deal helped by good relations between #CFC & #ATLUTD @TheAthleticFC https://t.co/oB8U3U86Dq— David Ornstein (@David_Ornstein) July 8, 2024
I dislike the Chelsea part, but like the Strasbourg part. The Chelsea "loan army" thing doesn't seem to work for many players.
It's worked for plenty of players. I posted the below seven years ago when this same topic came up. https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/y...016-2017-all-rs.2035385/page-48#post-35650195 https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/y...016-2017-all-rs.2035385/page-48#post-35650314 While I don't have the time or interest right now to go back and look in detail at Chelsea's loanees since then, off the top of my head I can think of players like Gallagher, Tomori, Guehi, Gilmour and Maatsen who spent time on loan and have since found success either with Chelsea or at a different top flight club. Like I said seven years ago, when I look at Chelsea's loan "army" I see a whole bunch of players playing at an appropriate level for their skills who are developing as players(e.g., 30+ matches for a 19 year old Gabriel Slonina in a top 8 European league). Is it ideal? Probably not, but it could be a whole lot worse.
The most likely path is he spends a couple years at Strasbourg then moves on to a bigger club. Whether that is a loan or a buy move remains to be seen. I don't think his talent is pitched high enough to be a Chelsea player. I see him topping out as a regular for a team in the top half of the table of a Big 4 league. From a financial point of view, signing with Chelsea is probably a no brainer. I will never second guess a player for taking the money.
Mud at a wall. 2017/18 Chelsea Loan Outs (where are they now?) Danilo Pantić Partizan (Partizan) Nathan Baxter Woking (Bolton Wanderers) Fankaty Dabo Vitesse (Forest Green Rovers) Tammy Abraham Swansea City (Roma) Kasey Palmer Huddersfield Town (Coventry City) Todd Kane Groningen (Stockport County) Josimar Quintero Rostov (Gudja United) Charlie Colkett Vitesse (no club) Bradley Collins Forest Green Rovers (Coventry City) Ola Aina Hull City (Nottingham Forest) Ruben Loftus-Cheek Crystal Palace (AC Milan) Lucas Piazon Fulham (SC Braga) Marco van Ginkel PSV Eindhoven (Vitesse) Ike Ugbo Barnsley (Troyes) Jay Dasilva Charlton Athletic (Coventry City) Kurt Zouma Stoke City (West Ham) Mason Mount Vitesse (Manchester United) Izzy Brown Brighton & Hove Albion (Retired) Tomáš Kalas Fulham (Schalke 04) Michael Hector Hull City (no club) Jamal Blackman Sheffield United (Burton Albion) Matt Miazga Vitesse (FC Cincinnati) Jared Thompson Chippenham Town (no club) Victorien Angban Waasland-Beveren (Dynamo Makhachkala) Mario Pašalić Spartak Moscow (Atalanta) Lewis Baker Middlesbrough (Stoke City) Kenneth Omeruo Kasımpaşa (Kasımpaşa) Jérémie Boga Birmingham City (Nice) Jordan Houghton Doncaster Rovers (Plymouth Argyle) Charlie Wakefield Stevenage (Woking) Nathan Amiens (Grêmio) Fikayo Tomori Hull City (AC Milan) Joao Rodríguez Tampico Madero (Municipal Grecia)
Happy to see the next gen guys making European moves. I hope some of them disrupt the status quo on the senior roster. Too much complacency in that pleasant club.
The loan army thing is just how European football works these days. Everyone is doing it. We only talk about Chelsea. What was the point of Arsenal buying Auston Trusty? Of Man City buying Erik Palmer-Brown? Talent is just being concentrated at the big European clubs. As we saw in the last transfer window, the money isn't great right now even at the mid-tier teams in big leagues. Nobody was spending. Who can afford to pay the price tag that Wiley was/is commanding? 8-10 million?? And which clubs are going to spend that amount on a "project." Wiley isn't ready to play for Chelsea. Which clubs in Europe are spending 10 million on a guy that they don't expect to star right away? And people say that if he wants to play in the middle of LIgue 1, he should just transfer there! Why go to Chelsea? Cuz middle-tier Ligue 1 isn't paying that price. I'll pick a club at random. Toulouse. Finished 11th last year in Ligue 1. Caleb Wiley would be their all-time transfer record if the price tag above is accurate. Yes, its true. San Diego doesn't exist and they already crushed Tolouse's all-time transfer record. They paid 12 million for Lozano (reportedly).