USMNT: The Berhalter Era pt. 1/ World Cup 2022 /Controversy

Discussion in 'Columbus Crew' started by hardhead, Dec 2, 2018.

  1. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    You guys know you're not going to get an answer, right?
     
  2. LaMacchia

    LaMacchia Member+

    Jul 12, 2008
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well aware. But asking is fun.
     
    Timon19 repped this.
  3. CybrSlydr

    CybrSlydr Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Jun 30, 2013
    Casper, WY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All about managing expectations.
     
    TKyle and LaMacchia repped this.
  4. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is one of the interesting things about modern thought. It used to be that if a person held two conflicting viewpoints, that person would see that there was an issue of logic. Today? People are capable of doing so--and not seeing that there is any issue at all.
     
  5. Crewster

    Crewster Member+

    Jan 28, 2005
    Worthington
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "The only problem with the scientific method is that a lot of folks are treating it like magic (or deity)--a corollary of Clarke's Third Law, methinks. Some scientists, too, tend to think that the D in Ph.D. stands for deity." - kgilbert78

    As posted in the coronavirus thread.
     
  6. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    That's a curious reading. I'm not so sure your logic is as sound as you think it is here.
     
  7. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    (1) Quite a few people are expecting a cure or a vaccine. Soon. Along the line of "scientists will do some sciencey thing, and we'll have one". Maybe there is, maybe there isn't. All science gives us is the method. There's no guarantee we'll get a vaccine. AIDS has been waiting for one some time now, though there have been some successes. (2) The second point is based on my experience as to how some scientists act (and in the thread, a reply to some of those folks who thought that scientists were humble, as some are--many are not).
     
  8. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Not sure why this is a reply to me. I knew what you meant.
     
  9. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gotcha. It's more toward the general comment--I had to hang it somewhere.
     
  10. KHT_Crew

    KHT_Crew Member+

    Mar 29, 2003
    Queen City, OH
    It is political but also USSF related...
    Gaetz is floating bill to force US soccer players to stand.

    Now it's political theater because there is no way Gaetz's bill makes it to the floor of a Dem House (and he knows it). But FIFA's dislike of government interference in the past may rear its head because they probably would like a chance to take their own shot at the US.
     
  11. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    ******** Matt Gaetz with a rusty pitchfork.
     
  12. LaMacchia

    LaMacchia Member+

    Jul 12, 2008
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    On this we will always agree.
     
    Timon19 repped this.
  13. DrunkandDisorderly

    Mar 17, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I wouldn't wish that on the rustiest of pitchforks.
     
    DGA57v2, TKyle, QuarkspaceDotCom and 2 others repped this.
  14. DGA57v2

    DGA57v2 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Apr 1, 2019
    You'd be surprised if you line up the rusty pitchforks and ask for a volunteer, how quickly the line would form.
     
    zman31 repped this.
  15. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Agree Gaetz's bill is going nowhere. Disagree FIFA is looking for a chance to pick a fight with US.
     
    TKyle repped this.
  16. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Gaetz.jpg

    Credit to The Stank Lord on twitter for replying to my Gaetz tweet with this.
     
    Tobias C, zman31, puttputtfc and 3 others repped this.
  17. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And good luck with trying to force someone to go against their conscience.
     
  18. Crewster

    Crewster Member+

    Jan 28, 2005
    Worthington
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do you have any data on this? Or is it a non-scientific conclusion?
     
  19. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    You're asking for a scientific basis for believing that certain people act in a way that is subjectively determined?

    You want data on arrogance?
     
  20. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Personal experience. Which is a primary data point.
     
  21. KHT_Crew

    KHT_Crew Member+

    Mar 29, 2003
    Queen City, OH
    You were saying...
     
  22. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Their statement is boilerplate reiterating things they've previously said. I wouldn't call it trying to pick a fight with the US, USSF, or Trump.

    I am curious to see how FIFA reacts if someone criticizes China over the Uighurs, or Hong Kong, or Tibet, or threats to Taiwan, or the Chinese troops who crossed the Line of Actual Control into India. My guess is FIFA will shut it down rather than follow their policies on racism or violence.
     
  23. Crewster

    Crewster Member+

    Jan 28, 2005
    Worthington
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, my late father was a scientist and a great guy. I knew many of his friends and colleagues, and they were generally pretty good people themselves. My career was in a science-related field, and I found that the highly intelligent, credentialed people I knew were far and away more interesting and fun to be around than those of lesser intelligence.
     
  24. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    True. And some are pretty arrogant.
     
    Minnman and Timon19 repped this.
  25. Ueberjames

    Ueberjames Member+

    Columbus Crew
    Mar 28, 2009
    Stow, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Same with just about any field, really.
     

Share This Page