USMNT Pool: Penalty Kicks (PKs) - Take your pick!

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  1. The Clientele

    The Clientele Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Jun 25, 2005
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That’s a great idea. Low risk of injury. Provides some closure for the game. Gives players and coaches an opportunity to simulate a higher stakes game. And it’s entertaining for the fans.
     
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  2. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    I must wait for my wife to suggest any good idea before I do. She’ll assume it’s a bad idea if I’m the one who suggests it. With that in mind, we’d probably be better off not suggesting this before some European does.
     
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  3. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Suggest the opposite and see if she suggests what you wanted as a reaction.
     
  4. RossD

    RossD Member+

    Aug 17, 2013
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    How about TJ Oshie?
     
  5. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Another positive data point from yesterday's top-of-the-table clash between Coventry City and Middlesbrough. Haji Wright had two goals to his credit, and Coventry led 2-1, when Wright stepped to the spot and scored his third - to ice the match - in a 3-1 victory.
     
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  6. TimB4Last

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    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Noting, though without enthusiasm ... Marseille and Toulouse went to PKs yesterday, to resolve their Coupe de France dispute. Weah and McKenzie were both available, but neither was given the opportunity to participate. Weah might have been a good choice, though, as two of five Marseille players failed to convert, and Marseille was eliminated 3-4.
     
  7. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    First, a positive report from the field:

    I don't want to make too much of this, but I see Trusty's success - on tired legs, at the end of a full, scoreless match - as a definite plus to his chances of making the WC roster. It's just one data point, and a miss wouldn't have ended his chances, but his most-likely WC role would seem to be as a substitute (say) at LCB for a tiring Ream, late in the match or in extra time ... perhaps heading for PKs in a KO match.
     
  8. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Another positive report from the field ...

     
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  9. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Positive and significant ...

    Aaronson came on as a long-term sub yesterday in the FA Cup quarterfinals, drawing a penalty that he did not take, but then scoring from the spot himself after extra time, to help Leeds advance over West Ham 4-2 on PKs. On to the semifinals.
     
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  10. TimB4Last

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    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Balogun earned, took, and converted a PK on Sunday in Monaco's 2-2 draw with Auxerre.

    Johnny was available but not selected to take a PK in Atletico's shootout loss to Real Sociedad in Saturday's Copa del Rey Final, RS prevailing 3-4 on PKs.
     
  11. TimB4Last

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    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Perhaps helping his chances for selection marginally, Alex Zendejas stepped to the spot at 85’ and beat Keylor Navas to tie tonight’s match tonight at three. {Finished America 3-3 Pumas}
     
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  12. TimB4Last

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    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Widening the pool, in the right direction ...

    Samuel 'Big Sam' Adeniran ... Give me a triple shot of that stuff!
     
  13. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Randomly enough, Austin Trusty has converted more than a few shootout penalties.....particularly in Sottish Cup action.
     
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  14. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    A busy day yesterday, as ...

    Robinson evened the score at 1-1 for Fulham late in the first half with a well-taken PK. The match ended 1-1.

    Pepi tacked on the fifth goal in PSV's final league match, scoring a late PK in a 5-1 victory.

    Sam Adeniran scored another PK for LASK in a 0-3 victory, which clinched first place in the Austrian Bundesliga.

    Also of note, Milan scored another PK, but Nkunku scored it, not Pulisic (who had not yet entered as a substitute). Pulisic did have an important late assist in a 1-2 victory.

    We know it's been a while, but when was Pulisic's last PK goal for club or country?
     
  15. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    That was Robinson's first ever goal in the Premier League.

    His penalty was so calmly taken! Ice in his veins!!!
     
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  16. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    With the way this World Cup has gone, this PK taking issue has become more and more important.

    Here's the challenge. After 120 minutes..................how many of Pulisic, Dest, Balogun, etc. are even on the field. Those are the guys to be substituted during the game.

    Who would our penalty takes actually be after 120 minutes in the summer heat? Its Pepi, Aaronson, Reyna, and Berhalter. Its the guys coming off the bench.

    ..............this is what we were seeing yesterday. Germany had taken off Undav. They'd taken off Wirtz. They'd taken off Sane. They'd taken off Nmecha. So they started penalties with Havertz, who'd just played a difficult 120 minutes in the Boston heat, and he missed. Then by the 3rd or 4th taker, they were using guys who don't take penalties. I was watching Waltemade walk up to take his penalty and thought to myself "this oaf doesn't look lik he wants to do this." Of course he missed. Then when they got to their 6th, they were using Tah of all people.
     
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  17. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    I realize this comment is a couple of months old…but penalties mess up the two hour broadcast window. Though to be fair…what really screws it up is extra time….but that would be the issue. It would require a half hour post game for friendlies in every broadcast to accommodate a penalty window
     
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  18. keller4president

    Jan 5, 2006
    it’s more fair to have overtime and test the depth of both teams and their subs. More fair chance to win it on the field.
     
  19. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    I’m not sure how that’s relevant to my comment…or the comment I was responding to….which was it would be a cool idea to have all international friendlies end in PK’s. I was pointing out the broadcast logistics challenges to that.
     
  20. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From memory, I think Arfsten has made some for the Crew in shootouts. Leagues Cup and Campeones Cup come to mind.

    But I'd go:
    1. Pulisic
    2. Pepi
    3. Reyna
    4. Zendejas
    5. Wright
    --------------
    6. Balogun
    7. Aaronson
    8. Jedi
    9. Arfsten
    10. Richards
    11. Berhalter
     
  21. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Yeah that's not happening.

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    If Antonee is on the field, he might be moved higher up.

    I remember a penalty he took earlier this year for Fulham, which was fire.
    I don't know if he does it often (probably not), but that was a perfect penalty.

    I don't think Pulisic is a 120 minute player at this point. He's off if we're talking penalties against Bosnia.

    We can look at penalty conversion statistics for players on transfermarkt.

    How many penalties has Gio Reyna taken in first team club soccer.........????

    The answer is one. That was against Bochum in 2022.

    So we have all of these guys we're listing as penalty takers and we have NO IDEA if they're even any good at it.

    Brenden Aaronson?

    According to transfermarkt, Brenden Aaronson has taken one penalty in his career. That was in the Austrian Bundesliga.

    This is why the "lottery of penalties" is the way it is.

    If Sergino Dest is on the field, what is his penalty record? Nonexistent.
     
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  22. OWN(yewu)ED

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    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You know who actually has a surprisingly good track record on penalties? Trusty.
     
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  23. Mantis Toboggan M.D.

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jul 8, 2017
    True. Although in this day and age the answer might just be "this one is going into the books as a draw, switch over to our streaming service to see the penalty shootout, stay tuned here on ESPN for Tigers-Mariners"
     
  24. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Amazing story out of the Germany camp that 4 guys refused to take penalties. Captain Joshua Kimmich apparently asked Goretzka twice whether he wanted to take the sixth penalty, the latter refused.
    Inside Germany’s penalty drama during loss to Paraguay - Yahoo Sports

    This is the epitome of what we don't want to happen. Just go in with a plan. A flexible plan because you're not quite sure who's going to be on the field. But go in with a plan.
     
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  25. Mantis Toboggan M.D.

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jul 8, 2017

    I mean ideally you'd have the whole squad ranked 1-26 and you just go down the list depending on who happens to be on the field.
     
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