USMNT Gold Cup Discussion

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by thedukeofsoccer, Apr 20, 2025.

  1. GoodHands

    GoodHands Member+

    AC Milan
    United States
    Jul 17, 2024
    As i implied in my previous post Curacao's bribe money just ran out and Canada's didn't. The ref and the VAR was horrible.
     
  2. GoodHands

    GoodHands Member+

    AC Milan
    United States
    Jul 17, 2024
    True, except when that "bigger" team is the USA. Then _______.
     
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  3. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Milpitas, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes yes, I remember that semi-final vs Jamaica. For comparison, Eloy Room got to carry the ball out into the D, vs. Brad Guzan dropkicks the ball at the edge of the box...
     
  4. sXeWesley

    sXeWesley Member+

    Jun 18, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh look at that complete surprise, Marsch has no plan B.
     
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  5. eliwood

    eliwood Member+

    Jul 25, 2016
    Honduras rounds the keeper at midfield :D
     
  6. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    @dark knight could you edit "USMNT Gold Cup Discussion" into the title? That's what I meant this for. Should have specified. Then a separate thread could be started for non USMNT matches.
     
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  7. GoodHands

    GoodHands Member+

    AC Milan
    United States
    Jul 17, 2024
    I disagree. Leave it as it is. There is no good reason to change the title.
     
  8. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The general USMNT talk that isn't specific to 1 game gets crowded out by talk about other teams in the tourney, and vice versa. Traditionally it's been separated and worked better.
     
  9. GoodHands

    GoodHands Member+

    AC Milan
    United States
    Jul 17, 2024
    Again I disagree. There is already the individual match threads for the USMNT. Why do we need, or want, more?
    And I do NOT agree it worked better before. It was not better, just different.
     
  10. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    Canada is hilarious.

    Jesse Marsh starts the tournament in a booth, spews machismo and braggadocio, gets slapped, then they produce a laughable result.

    Pretty funny to watch this hoccer team flail about.
     
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  11. kruck

    kruck Member+

    Jan 12, 2008
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Navas playing well so far '25 into Mex-CRC
     
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  12. kruck

    kruck Member+

    Jan 12, 2008
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    CR have grown into the game '40.... need to win to finish 1st and they are going for it
     
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  13. Mike03

    Mike03 Member

    Jun 7, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Some insane saves to thwart Mexico's frenetic start.
     
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  14. Mike03

    Mike03 Member

    Jun 7, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    MEX v CRC getting spicy. I appreciated the all-women reffing crew in the early game; seemed to temper the conca.
     
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  15. Reccossu

    Reccossu Member+

    Jan 31, 2005
    Birmingham
    The US would be underdogs against either of these teams if they asked me. So much more turning on the ball and good running.
     
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  16. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How exactly was that off?
     
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  17. kruck

    kruck Member+

    Jan 12, 2008
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    CR will be tough... but they will be missing their leading scorer Ugalde .... not sure if anyone else earned a suspension tonight
     
  18. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  19. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    If navas plays out of his mind again yeah, it will be a long day for the US. It took a 'golazo" (I know it was called off) to get past him
    By mexico.
     
  20. don Lamb

    don Lamb Member+

    mine
    United States
    Aug 31, 2017
    Mexico has only scored one goal from the run of play against Suriname, CR, and DR, so maybe they are not the best judge of whether it will be so difficult to score?
     
  21. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    yet their place at the top of their group shows maybe its best not to judge a team based on one aspect of the game?
     
  22. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Club Med
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I do not think De La Torre will make the WC cut this time. There is too much competition and he does not advance the ball. No special qualities.
     
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  23. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Milpitas, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can't understand why it was offsides. The CR player hit the ball that Gimenez scored on! I guess to ensure you're "onside" you'll have to make sure you're onside for the pass before the final pass, just to be sure...
     
  24. GoodHands

    GoodHands Member+

    AC Milan
    United States
    Jul 17, 2024
    The law basically says that you are offside if you are in an offside position when the pass is made and deflections do not matter. That is deflections do not impact any offside determination.
     
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  25. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    The rule on this is so poorly written that you can drive a truck through the differences in interpretation.

    It starts out by saying offside is reset by a "deliberate" play on the ball by the defense, and that header was clearly intentional. This isn't an accidental deflection.

    But then a sentence or two later, it talks about controlling the ball, which is a completely different level of interaction, and even mentions this is hard to do in the air (which does leave open the possibility of control with a header, so?).

    So it's a deliberate play for sure ... but not really controlling the ball, just hitting it. They aren't even really intentional in which way it goes.

    So that's offside ... or not? Good ol' FIFA rules. Can't just pick one.
     
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