USMNT Fitness Status Thread

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Eleven Bravo, May 19, 2021.

  1. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    With four weeks until the Jamaica matches (Nov 14 & 18), perhaps we should take an inventory of our injured players. Would someone care to create a list?
     
  2. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1302 Paul Berry, Oct 16, 2024
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    Adams in training
    Weah in training
    Wiley in training
    McKennie late October
    Richards late October
    Balogun December
    Dest January
    Reyna January
    Cardoso?
    De La Torre?
    Paredes?
     
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  3. KALM

    KALM Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Boston/Providence
    Carter-Vickers too, but Celtic hoped to have him back after the international window.

    And I'm assuming the players you haven't mentioned who were ruled out for the Mexico game at some point after the Panama game (Steffen, McKenzie, Fossey, and Pepi) all have very minor injuries, if that, but I'll just note those 4 for now for the sake of completeness.
     
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  4. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    CCV is at Clyde Shipyards for repairs. They're used to building things with his turning circle.
     
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  5. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    the whole situation will be a repetitive framework ...

    get some players healthy ... integrate and train and evaluate ...

    get more players healthy ... integrate and train and evaluate ...

    lather rinse repeat .... it will be like this for the next 12 months ...

    it could actually work very nicely in the build up to the big dance ....

    1. Poch will get his full assessment done (some fringe players get their chance to prove their worth to him .... or not)
    2. Poch will get the whole squad training and playing the way he likes
    3. the club teams will appreciate how Poch understands their needs and demands
    4. over time we will get our A squad fully healthy (will Gio and Tyler ever be 100% is a big concern as is - and who will our keeper be?) ....

    I think it will just require patience from the US fan base ....

    and alot of travel from Poch ....

    these injuries don't happen overnight and they don't get resolved overnight ...

    patience is key.
     
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  6. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What’s McKenzie status?
     
  7. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Stock up! [​IMG]

    Not sure about his physical status ...
     
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  8. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    I have a gut feeling that if this past window was REALLY critical, a bunch of guys would have been there. Johnny seems like he's just being rested. CCV has a toe issue. Weah will be on the bench this next game for Juve.
     
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  9. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
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  10. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    May this return not be ended quickly with another injury.
     
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  11. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  12. KALM

    KALM Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Boston/Providence
    #1312 KALM, Oct 18, 2024
    Last edited: Oct 18, 2024
    I mentioned this in another thread, but considering all of Adams' injuries, some people might be surprised to learn just how consistently he's been available in competitive fixtures for the US over the past 4 years. He's been available for 10 out of the last 13 competitive international windows (not counting B-Team Gold Cups). The 3 he missed were all in 2023. And he's started 22 out of 33 competitive A-team games in that 4 year period.

    By my count, he is one of only 6 USMNT players that have started two-thirds of our competitive games in that period. (The other 5 are Pulisic, McKennie, Jedi, Turner, and Musah. Jedi's 28 competitive starts make him the most consistent starter in that group by a decent margin.)

    On the other hand, it does seem at times that his push to make himself available for the bigger national team games has contributed to his overall injury issues. Especially this year, he has been available for both competitive international windows we've had this year (and may very well make it 3 for 3 soon), but it seems like his push to make that happen has contributed significantly to the injuries that have ruled him out for almost every Bournemouth games this year.
     
  13. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    118 minutes is crazy
     
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  14. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    It helps when the manager calls you in, even when you aren't fit enough to play much, if at all.
     
  15. Roger Allaway

    Roger Allaway Member+

    Apr 22, 2009
    Warminster, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In the last World Cup cycle, he played in 13 of our 14 World Cup qualifiers, started 12 of them and played 90 minutes in seven of them. At the World Cup itself, he played 90 minutes in all four games.
     
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  16. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    The last World Cup cycle was two-to-four years ago. That was back when Gio Reyna was in his prime, Pulisic was a wingback, and Tim Ream was only in his mid-30s. Times have changed.
     
  17. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Berhalter called Adams in all the time when he had fitness question marks, and he often delivered.
    That's why he kept doing it.

    Like when he hadn't played in forever, came into the Nations League this past spring, and scored a bomb of a winner against Mexico in the final.

    Adams, lest we forget, was USMNT captain. He captained every game at the World Cup. I know we had that "leadership council." When it mattered the most, though, it was Adams who was captain.

    And yes, the captain is sometimes given special treatment. Is leaned on a little more than others.
     
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  18. Roger Allaway

    Roger Allaway Member+

    Apr 22, 2009
    Warminster, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You were implying that Adams was called in when he was "not fit to play much, if at all". If that were the case, how did he play all those 90-minute games?
     
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  19. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So what's the threshold if you are going to call a player with limited minutes. Only the World Cup? The Copa seemed sort of important.
     
  20. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's a balance between playing 90 and getting injured from overuse and being a little more tactical on when to give those minutes. To be fair to GB the team has only recently found more players who are or near ready to help out at defensive mid. A few years back Acosta was the main backup.
     
  21. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2021 Acosta wasn't so bad.
     
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  22. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Weah played today for Juve. Came on in the 54th minute. He's excited. We're excited to get one guy back..............
    No McKennie as expected. [1-0 win over 10-man Lazio]
     
  23. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    #1323 Clint Eastwood, Oct 19, 2024
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  24. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Patience

    Weah is back
    Adams was on the bench
    Jonny is back

    Three in one week

    perhaps Wes in 2 weeks
    Gio in a few more I hope

    tick tock tick tock
     
  25. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    A couple that didn't play yesterday that we thought were close to a return.
    Cameron Carter-Vickers didn't play. He has a toe thing, and is just nagging apparently.
    Wiley didn't get in the 18 for Strasbourg, although is apparently in training. Good thing. They got absolutely demolished by PSG. He didn't have surgery or anything. Being rested with some knee tendonitis.
     

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