USMNT- and the Thuderstix Trend

Discussion in 'Business and Media' started by JRstriker12, Oct 16, 2002.

  1. JRstriker12

    JRstriker12 New Member

    Jan 27, 2002
    Falls Church, VA
    According to the NY Times, thunderstix/Cheerstix first appeared in the US in a USMNT game: Creating Noise, and an Uproar http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/16/sports/baseball/16FANS.html?tntemail0

    --The history of the noisy sticks can be traced to Korean baseball games in the early 1990's, according to Lundberg and Les Laskey, the vice president of sales for Vonco, which makes ThunderStix. Lundberg worked for the Korean company that made them, then started his own company to sell his version.

    "Then we broke open the U.S. market on Sept. 7, 1997, a United States men's national team soccer game in Portland, Ore., against Costa Rica," Lundberg said, recalling the event as if it were the day he discovered electricity. "There were 30,000 CheerStix and the atmosphere was phenomenal. People said it was the greatest crowd ever."


    I guess the Anaheim Angels and the rest of the sports world is just catching up ;)
     
  2. nowhere

    nowhere New Member

    Jul 2, 2002
    Another reason for the mainstream press to hate soccer.
     
  3. Thomas A Fina

    Thomas A Fina Member

    Mar 29, 1999
    Hell
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ugh - I actually remember this and thinking, WTF when I was watching it on TV. I had never seen it before, didn't like it then, hate it even more now - it's as if they are insulting the fans intelligence that they can't make up funny or inspiring chants. Yet another sign of the dumbing down of culture. (OK, that last one is a bit much.)

    Of course, after Tabare's last positive contribution to the Nats, I could not have given a damn what the fans were cheering with.

    --Tom
     
  4. cpwilson80

    cpwilson80 Member+

    Mar 20, 2001
    Boston
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  5. empennage

    empennage Member

    Jan 4, 2001
    Phoenix, AZ
    I don't see how these things insult fans intelligence. How is it any different than clapping your hands during a chant, or beating on a drum? Seems to me, that if they were used properly they would make chants and cheers louder. That can only be a good thing if you ask me.
     
  6. skinut

    skinut Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 25, 2000
    Castle Pines, CO (or often elsewhere on earth)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll take them over those damned stadium trumpets ANY time!
     
  7. Popero

    Popero Member

    Jul 5, 2002
    CT
    I hate those things; it's all just hollow empty noise.
     
  8. Etienne_72772

    Etienne_72772 Member+

    Oct 14, 1999
    Reminds me of that Simpson's episode, where Homer goes to talk to the Ad agency about his snowplow business, and the guy tells Homer that he was the one responsible for that particular jingle that they play all the time on the radio that you can't get out of your head... whereupon Homer stands up and punches the guy right in the face. The guy then says, "yeah, I deserved that..."

    Wouldn't it be nice to punch the guy who imported the thundersticks into this country?

    Actually, the thundersticks do supply a lot of noise. Perhaps the supporters groups just need to do a better job coordinating chants and songs with the thundersticks. I mean, many chants involve simultaneous clapping of hands--why not just trade the clapping for the thundersticks?
     
  9. USFootie

    USFootie New Member

    Apr 1, 2000
    Orange County ,CA
    Did anybody else notice the writing on the cheer sticks at the angels' game's that said "YES WE CAN" basically biting the "si se puede" slogan that mexico started using during the 98 Cup (i think it was 98). I did a double take when i saw that... i guess they finally figured out that soccer crowds and their chants/slogans/atmosphere are the best!
     
  10. rocketeer22

    rocketeer22 Member+

    Apr 11, 2000
    Oakton,VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is that right? I remember seeing them at RFK during the 1996 Olympic soccer games. Though, i do suppose the first game I saw them en masse was the Korea game..
     
  11. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Actually, the Angels were using the "Yes We Can" chant in their earlier play-off appearances all the way back in the '80s, so it didn't originate with Mexico.

    Though if they want to take credit for it, let them. And we should let the "wave" be called the "Mexican Wave" like it is in Europe, for that matter.

    And as for the thunder sticks, I'll say what I've said before: if you give those things to the Dalai Lama, within 10 minutes he'll be whapping everybody in his entourage. No one seems to be able to resist the urge to whap someone else with those suckers.
     
  12. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Si se puede

    Though I wouldn't assume that the Angels invented the slogan "Yes We Can," it was the main chant at Angels games in the mid-1980s during the Wallly World era. But really, it's a pretty easy slogan to "come up with," and I imagine some team used it before the Angels.

    As for the cheer sticks/thunder sticks - it was nice to receive something in Portland, both the CR game and the Kuwait game.

    And I'd be fascinated to hear the reasoning why the sound from the thunderstick is fudamentally different from the drums we find so integral to futbol fandom.
     
  13. USFootie

    USFootie New Member

    Apr 1, 2000
    Orange County ,CA
    Re: Si se puede

    Oh I see said the blind man....
    I had never heard about that being the main chant for the Angels... i guess thats what i get for being a young buck in the mid 1980's...
     
  14. skinut

    skinut Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 25, 2000
    Castle Pines, CO (or often elsewhere on earth)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Much more tolerable than those damned stadium trumpets at the Rose Bowl.
     
  15. Brownswan

    Brownswan New Member

    Jun 30, 1999
    Port St. Lucie, FL
    Farthorns. We had a batch of them at Giants Stadium after some dumb give-away. A few even crept into 101, in the front frow of the ESC.

    Couldn't get them to quit blowing, so we sang:

    "One note.
    You only blow one note...
    (aka. "Blue Moon")

    The malefactor shook his head, tightened his armature, and blew an octave. So we sang out:

    "Two notes.
    You only blow two notes..."

    I don't mind drums, (real) trumpets, and bagpipes,
    but nothing beats singing team anthems and humorous, off-color songs.

    "With a packet of sweets
    and a cheeky, little smile..." :)
     
  16. Fiero20

    Fiero20 Member

    Aug 3, 2002
    Gillette Stadium
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i dont mind them at all. its the only things you can get into the stadium with that make noise! i had a foghorn that i used to bring, and i started chants with it at games, but its been banned since 2000 if i remember right. o well.

    SUPAH REVOLUTION!!!!

    cheers, fiero
     
  17. prk166

    prk166 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 8, 2000
    Med City
    I've never liked those darned donkey condoms.
     
  18. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like the farthorns. Sort of makes me feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone.
     
  19. cpwilson80

    cpwilson80 Member+

    Mar 20, 2001
    Boston
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Keep the thundersticks

    You can not put a price on the comedy that ensues when a group of friends fail to comprehend the logistics of the thundersticks. Even better is when they start trying to explain to each other that their method is superior to that of their friend's, when in reality both are wrong.

    Just look for them during the World Series/next US game - they're out there.
     
  20. JRstriker12

    JRstriker12 New Member

    Jan 27, 2002
    Falls Church, VA
    For real! I rember watching MLS broadcasts back in the day and all you hear was Blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttt----Blaaaaaaaaaaaaattt.
     
  21. cafrine

    cafrine New Member

    Oct 13, 2002
    is GONE
    back in the day? thats STILL all you hear
     
  22. Sachin

    Sachin New Member

    Jan 14, 2000
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    I just use mine as a condom.

    Sachin
     
  23. Thomas A Fina

    Thomas A Fina Member

    Mar 29, 1999
    Hell
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Of course, therein lies the problem. They are never used properly. They are just noisemakers to no purpose. Could you imagine what would happen if everyone had drums - that would be annoying as anything. So instead of being creative, fans slam those stix together like mindless sheep.
    On another point I will say the temptation to misuse those things is godawful
     
  24. empennage

    empennage Member

    Jan 4, 2001
    Phoenix, AZ
    I suppose you've got a point. I remember bugging the hell out of my ex-girlfriend for the US-Paraguay game back in 98. I was one of those annoying guys, that kept banging the stix together for the entire 90 minutes. ;) It was a load of fun. Although if I would've been in a cheering section, I might have used them properly.
     

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