When did I argue that this role didn't need a defensive partner? Pirlo had 2. If we partner someone with say- Adams. Yuiell was partnered with Mckennie.
Why are you getting so ... defensive? If this is frustrating you... just stop replying. Its all good.
Yeah I'm pretty much ignoring this. It ignored all the points I made about single goal being the most important factor and I don't really have time or inclination to dig in all of that data. I think - fairly simply- the US did not lose a single game in 2019 in which they scored a single goal. That pretty much says it all.
And I'm not digging up all the times you've said the regista doesn't need a defensive midfielder with them and you're even here still stating the defense is fine as is for the US in the next post, just so you can come up with another disingenuous argument.
I honestly don't remember saying it. I think we may have different understandings on what that means. Mckennie was next to Yueill with Yueill the technical #6 in terms of his positioning and McKennie a more defensive, ball winning 8. I've also used Jorginho with Kante paired with him the mid. I have been saying the defense has been fine. We have played with this role all year and did not lose a game where they scored a goal. I am not getting the disconnect.
I'm just using what I have to go on. We have one year of games in this system and in this style. If those numbers change a lot over the course of this year and the next we can readjust.
wrt the comment "we didn't lose a game where we scored a goal." Here's the game we lost: 0-1 to Jamaica 0-3 to Venezuela 0-1 to Mexico 0-3 to Mexico 0-2 to Canada So we gave up 10 goals over 5 games and the only issue you see is that we didn't score? Furthermore, the primary reason we didn't score is because of an ill-informed insistence that we build around a regista and away from playing direct. I'm highly confident that we would have been far more dangerous if we took every opportunity to counter instead of having a possession focus.
Thanks for pulling this together! I look at this and see that we gave up a ton on goals even outside of our two worst (7 goals). Conversely, we qualified before when we scored only 7 goals (outside of our best two). We also made it farthest in the WC in that year. We need to get back to shutting teams down entirely.
I had high hopes for that team - it was going to be Landon fulfilling his destiny as being "the man" at a world cup. I remember trying to console myself that well, we tied the eventual champions and knowing that was weak sauce....
Not really. Between last cylce and this there have been 3 different managers and a lot of roster turnover. I included the T&T game bc it was still relatively close. And honestly I don't care to dig that deep right now on that. That is probably me just tired after several a long day of meetings.
Yes. Because all but one of those were friendlies. So the only game in which we even gave up multiple goals in a competitive game was Canada. Where they were pushing to get back the goal they gave up. I'm getting tired. Long day. I'll reply to comment later. I'm likely to get unnecessarily biting in my responses soon. Later guys.
To get a snapshot of long term trends and of the norms. Can't do that off a few games of Gregg and his Magic System. Across the past 5 WCQing cycles, taking away the two outlier matches reveals a fairly obvious problem with the 2018 WCQing team.
Why is it the orthodoxy that Yueill is a better possession creator/keeper than Adams? Is it because he’s.....slower? If we already have McKennie to play the runner 8 why not just let Tyler Adams play the 6- where he plays for the Bundesliga table-topper? Would Yueill have a higher passing percentage playing where Adams is for RBL? I’m not convinced that Gregg’s tactics will succeed but his fully-healthy, first-choice USMNT pool actually has the players to theoretically fill his midfield: Pulisic/Reyna———McKennie ———Adams———Dest Why the hell are we talking about Yueill as a must-start player? And please don’t tell me that Lampard would keep Kante at the 8 if it meant subbing Jorginho for Jackson Yueill. I know you were going to say something to that effect.
I think we'll see Adams there. With the talent coming in it may be the best place for him. But in that role- its a role tied to the back line and doesn't allow as much roaming and ball winning. Definitely not against it. It's not really the same role he plays for RBL.
There are so many different ways to conceptualize these. Check this out. https://runningtheshowblog.wordpres...-different-roles-of-the-defensive-midfielder/ I've heard both Brenden Rogers and Berhalter refer to the role as the "controller." This describes Busquets as a controller rather than a regista. There are many others that refer to him as the Regista. I think its largely because these are concepts and not hard, strict definitions. The really good teams can get one player to play all of these in one role. Not advocating anything from this article. Just thought it interesting and thought you'd be interested in reading it.
Statistically, Busquets has no problem roaming and ball winning. From WS-- Sergio Busquets Characteristics + Strengths Passing-----Very Strong Ball interception------Strong Concentration-------Strong Tackling-------Strong Against Italy, Adams had no problem roaming and ball winning from the lone 6. He had 17 clearances, drawn fouls, tackles, recoveries, and ints. The other 4 CMs who had played had combined 19.
Positionally - Busquets plays as locked in mostly in front of the back line. He’s got the speed of a cb. He doesn’t roam and break up plays the way Adams does. They play different roles
Of everything I've been reading... this is probably the most accurate. Another way to phrase it Controller/Passer Press Resistant Mid/ Dribbler Ball winner/ Ball recoverer
There’s some truth to this. But if Gregg continues to press with two players high up the pitch while everyone else just hangs out behind the center-line we’re screwed no matter who we play back there. In other words, Gregg’s defensive positioning of the 6 or deepest mid or regista- whatever you want to call it- and many of the players around it- is terribly ineffective. Tyler doesn’t just roam for RBL- he just plays high and aggressively for them. He’s always the deepest center mid.
Not in the Italy match, where Adams played as a 'locked in 6'. In '17, Bradley led the league in ball recoveries. His time has passed, but in his in day, he was an excellent ball winner. https://www.thestar.com/sports/socc...-bradley-keeps-toronto-fc-moving-forward.html But post injury, he lacked the close control to receive balls under pressure.