News: USL To Merge First and Second Divisions in 2011

Discussion in 'United Soccer Leagues' started by Maza1987, Sep 8, 2010.

  1. Mikey mouse

    Mikey mouse Member

    Jul 27, 1999
    Charleston, SC
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They were only paying for the team, not the fans visiting.

    The theory was that the Bermuda national team (most the players on the team were national team canidates) would be improved by playing competative games in the league.
     
  2. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They very nearly folded before their last year in D3 was out and they drew a few hundred people a game while finishing no better than 9th in their history.

    That's a train wreck.
     
  3. Mikey mouse

    Mikey mouse Member

    Jul 27, 1999
    Charleston, SC
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    guess Im using CPB and California Victory as messuring sticks.

    Perhaps those were Hindenburg type accident in retrospect...
     
  4. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Disaster > Train wrecks
     
  5. ButlerBob

    ButlerBob Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2001
    Evanston, IL
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So what's the offical count for team for next year? So far I think we are at 10. This assumes that all 6 teams from this year are coming back, plus (4) Dayton, Baracudas and the 2 PR team.

    And if the previously other expansion teams ( Orlando, New York) actually come in, we're up to 12. Although I'm taking a wait and see attitude with those two teams.
     
  6. RedCoatsforever

    Jun 10, 2008
    London, Ontario
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Several of the 6 have said that they're going to the NASL IIRC.
     
  7. Intru

    Intru Member

    Mar 16, 2006
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    Puerto Rico Islanders
  8. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not the six at the third division level. The ones that have pledged allegiance to the NASL are all at the D2 level (for now).
     
  9. ButlerBob

    ButlerBob Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2001
    Evanston, IL
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just to clarify I'm talking about Charleston, Charlotte, Richmond, Real Maryland, Harrisburg, and Pittsburgh. I don't think any of them are moving to NASL.
     
  10. Flyin Ryan

    Flyin Ryan Member

    May 13, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've always thought a Caribbean Super League made sense, USL or no USL.
     
  11. RedCoatsforever

    Jun 10, 2008
    London, Ontario
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    My mistake.
     
  12. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Made sense for whom? Given these small island nations can't have much of a league on their own, it would make sense for them to join into some sort of conglomeration, I guess.

    But it doesn't make a lot of sense for a US-based league to include them unless you're just trying to pad your number of teams.
     
  13. jmb321

    jmb321 Member

    Oct 9, 2008
    Not only to pad the number of teams but also legitimize those teams by (possibly) mandating US-based teams play league games against them regardless of travel costs.
     
  14. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm sure that would be something you'd go in for, right? ;)

    It wouldn't legitimize them if they (a) got smacked 6-0 by the Charleston Battery or ( b) folded because of an attitude of "Eh, whatever. Not important."

    And, again, who wins by a Turks & Caicos team being legitimized? Turks & Caicos. Not the US. Not the USL. Not American soccer.

    To be quite frank, I'm not interested in us being soccer missionaries. The minnows haven't shown me they can either compete or logistically pull together teams and programs.
     
  15. jmb321

    jmb321 Member

    Oct 9, 2008
    Precisely... it de-legitimizes the league for perpetuating this nonsense in the name of upgrading the sport in places were we have no business. But these poor souls will only find this out after the substantial franchise fee is paid up and the lopsided results starting piling up next season.

    Depending on the US to spread the gospel of soccer in the Caribbean is analogous to a minor league baseball putting a team in Holland to spread baseball to the Faroe Islands.

    US Soccer should put a end to this farce and not legitimize any US based league for perpetuating this B**L S**T.
     
  16. Mikey mouse

    Mikey mouse Member

    Jul 27, 1999
    Charleston, SC
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  17. brentgoulet

    brentgoulet Member+

    Oct 12, 2005
    PuertoPlata, DomRep
    +1, that is the task of the CaribbeanFootballAsociation
     
  18. Intru

    Intru Member

    Mar 16, 2006
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    Puerto Rico Islanders
    Caribbean Football Union not association and thats just a front to get Papa Jack the votes to maintain control of CONCACAF, considering that the Caribbean conference will probably just be mainly Puerto Rican teams it does help US soccer, they will not be the main benefactors but most player are going to be Americans that includes Puerto Ricans. Alot of PRSL teams have a good amount of american players in them.
     
  19. Flyin Ryan

    Flyin Ryan Member

    May 13, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The island nations obviously. My statement was outside the confines of an American-based league.
     
  20. babykhris

    babykhris Member

    Philadelpia Union
    Nov 30, 2008
    Philadlphia,PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  21. DCU1996

    DCU1996 Member

    Jun 3, 2002
    N. VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Good to see things are sorted out and D2 and D3 are shaping up.
     
  22. brentgoulet

    brentgoulet Member+

    Oct 12, 2005
    PuertoPlata, DomRep
    Dayton dutch LIONS and also the Orlando LIONS ?
     
  23. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't believe Orlando has been named yet, have they? I know there are those who are hoping for Lions because there was a team of that name years ago, but I didn't see where they've actually taken that name.
     
  24. Mikey mouse

    Mikey mouse Member

    Jul 27, 1999
    Charleston, SC
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  25. jmb321

    jmb321 Member

    Oct 9, 2008

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