News: USL Shakeup: Holt Resigns

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  1. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    USL Announces Executive Changes

    ( a ) Surprised it took him so long
    ( b ) Any reasons would be speculative
    ( c ) New guy has been in the organization since June 2013 and Exec. VP since last year.
    ( d ) CEO hired his son.
    ( e ) USL is definitely going to be different going forward.
     
  2. JG

    JG Member+

    Jun 27, 1999
  3. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Honestly, I find this disconcerting. I was really pleased with the direction the USL was heading, and I credited Holt with much of that (rightly or wrongly).

    And now they're hiring buddies and family members. That just doesn't bode well. But it'd be just like the USL of old to fcuk up a good thing.

    I'll be really pissed if that league returns to its old, stupid ways.
     
  4. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Those who have been closer to it than most know that he deserves much credit for what has gone down over the last 16 years. Not everything worked and he has become shorthand in places for USL's problems, but that's not completely fair, either.
     
  5. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    I definitely separate the pre-2010 USL from the post-2010 USL. Roughly, anyway - there was a transition year or two in there. While I know about his reputation pre-2010 (and I know it wasn't always the best), I've also seen what's been happening under his leadership since then, and that, to me, looks great. So, yeah, it's hard to know what this really signifies or entails. But I'm always defending the USL against charges of instability. That was the old USL. Things are different now. Then Tim Holt suddenly resigns ... and ... well ... you wonder.
     
  6. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know nothing about the guy who is replacing him. Perhaps he's good. I have no idea.

    But 16 years is a long time to spend in one place in this country. And a lot of things have changed since 1999.

    They're certainly more stable and have certainly done most (not all) things better than in the Marcos Era. (The landscape has changed around them as well.)

    We'll see, I guess.
     
  7. nick p

    nick p Member+

    Jul 11, 2009
    Baltimore Maryland
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Holt was instrumental in (re)building usl
     
  8. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
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    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Quite a surprise. I wonder where Holt is going if indeed it was by his choice to leave.
     
  9. Mikey mouse

    Mikey mouse Member

    Jul 27, 1999
    Charleston, SC
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #9 Mikey mouse, Mar 3, 2015
    Last edited: Mar 3, 2015
    Jake Edwards is a former Charleston Battery player. He is a good guy and I got to know him while he was here in Charleston. I spoke to him up in Philly this year at the NSCAA convention. We had a good laugh about our lack of hair compared to what we used to have.

    He and Holt seem to have the same vision and philosophy about where the USL is headed and its path.
    [​IMG]
     
  10. ManuSooner

    ManuSooner Member+

    Nov 15, 2007
    Oklahoma City
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe the NASL should hire Holt ;-)
     
  11. SoccerPrime

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    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From his Twitter account definitely sounds like it was his idea to leave.
     
  12. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
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    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which would not surprise me in the least.
     
  13. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why do you say that?

    Think he was just done. Accomplished what he wanted and all that or just tired out?
     
  14. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It would not surprise me in the least that he just reached the end, like you say. Anyone who tries to paint it as anything other than just the natural cycle of life and work would be, I think, reading stuff into it that isn't there.

    16 years is a long time to work anywhere. And a LOT has happened in those 16 years. Anyone who does anything for that long would be well within norms to think about what's next.

    That's all I meant. Someone said "It was his idea to leave." To which I said, "Which would not surprise me in the least."
     
  15. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fair enough. I mean that was what I read into it when he left, that it was just time. I'd have tired of my job almost a decade earlier if I were him. And at this point he's leaving USL in a fairly stable and successful place after the turbulence of the last decade. It seems a natural jumping off point if you're in his shoes.
     
  16. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, it sure wasn't boring at several points along the way. The years 1999-2005 were pretty turbulent, and then in 2009 the shit hit the fan.

    But having seen the dynamic there, I'd have been gone a long time ago. That's just me. That's why I originally said I was surprised it took so long.
     
  17. Macsen

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  18. ManuSooner

    ManuSooner Member+

    Nov 15, 2007
    Oklahoma City
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well ok then
     
  19. ButlerBob

    ButlerBob Moderator
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    Nov 13, 2001
    Evanston, IL
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good for him. Seems like a good move for him.
     
  20. JBG - Bribe Taker

    Mar 17, 2000
    Mt. Pleasant, SC
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Since OC was in USL, I'm sure he knows most everyone there.
     
  21. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Commissioner to VP of Development for a single team...

    Not seeing how that makes sense but if he's happy, more power to him.
     
  22. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ( a ) He wasn't Commissioner, because that title didn't exist. (And in any case, he didn't really act as a "commissioner" as we normally think of the Rozelle/Selig/Goodell type commissioner.) and
    ( b ) Of course you don't see how it makes sense. Because you don't know the dynamic.
     
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  23. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
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    United States
    There's the kenn we know and love... :p
     
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  24. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
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    Apr 14, 2003
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    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How many usl teams can you start for a $70 million expansion fee? Apples and oranges.
     

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