USL General News thread

Discussion in 'United Soccer Leagues' started by thefishy, Sep 28, 2014.

  1. VBCity72

    VBCity72 Member+

    Aug 17, 2014
    Oki, J-pan
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No doubt but MLS and USL were suppose to be the big bad. Does this effect that lawsuit against MLS considering Silva was, I think, apart of it?
     
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  2. LouCityFan

    LouCityFan Member

    Louisville City FC
    United States
    May 25, 2019
    Louisville, KY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Odds are getting slim at this point. Nashville SC could theoretically sell their franchise rights, especially if they can get in for free or on the cheap as a MLS reserve side in League One. As far as the list of potential buyers, Michigan Stars might be the only viable NISA candidate. Detroit City FC supporters have substantial vitriol towards USL and MLS (more so MLS). New York Cosmos have similarly burned bridges. Stumptown Athletic (Charlotte) and Atlanta SC are in markets that are occupied. Oakland is too close to the East Bay expansion team, and is on the wrong side of the country anyway to be useful here.

    Outside the NISA, there has been some talk of the Jacksonville Armada and New Orleans Jesters going pro, but both would be unlikely. Armada ownership hasn't been interested in the USL, and the Jesters likely don't have the capital to roll on this short notice.

    Fresno/Monterey will not happen for 2020, but the league hasn't actually announced their departure.
     
  3. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From what I remember, Silva has largely taken a backseat on making waves with MLS/USSF. I think the lawsuit is largely a Cosmos vs USSF affair at this point.

    that being said, having Miami FC join USL the same season that Miami is joining MLS is, reportedly, not going over well in MLS HQ. There’s been a growing rift between MLS and USL ever since the MLS2 teams stunk up USL1 from an attendance standpoint. Seems to be a pretty big shift from USL killing a franchise in San Diego because they joined the MLS expansion race.
     
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  4. pletch99

    pletch99 Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Winchester, England
    USL might not have had too much choice about whether to let the The Miami FC in. They may not have chosen to grant them a new franchise, but presumably they have rather less say when an existing franchise is sold to new owners.

    From their perspective they might simply be making the best of a bad scenario. I can't see Inter Miami being too bothered - it might have a small impact on them, but frankly I would imagine that The Miami might struggle to compete on the marketing and TV coverage front and one suspects they will do well to get their crowds anywhere near the level they had in NASL when they were the only show in town (yes I know Inter are not exactly "in" town)
     
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  5. thekorean

    thekorean Member

    Jan 10, 2017
    Club:
    New York City FC
    They got the reverse Austin going for them. Wonder how USL felt about MLS giving Austin a team?
     
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  6. FCDfaninzEP

    FCDfaninzEP Member

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Sep 8, 2018
    El Paso, TX
    Exactly. MLS is not worried about Miami FC being in the USLC. MFC won’t take any fans away from Inter Miami. MFC and Bold should be the ones worried about the MLS teams in their cities.
     
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  7. canammj

    canammj Member

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Saw some other note on the web commenting that pro-rel may come at some point because of the Silva/Miami/USL-C move? Or did USL offer a peace offering- you drop the suit against us and we let you in? I not am totally clear is the suit was against ALL leagues or USSF ? And for that matter, since he took over Ottawa franchise, he didn't have to pay a full expansion fee?
    As for Ottawa, they really belong in CPL and hopefully another ownership group can be found and now USL-C doesn't have the cross border politics in at least their top tier.
    And having said that, TFC-2 should really move out of USL-1 and probably to the Ontario League or maybe even CPL?
    The odd ones are the Canadian USL-2 teams, not sure where they can move to especially some like Thunder Bay.
    Truthfully, if USL-C and USL-1 can figure out a way to have pro-rel within their framework (assume USL-2 not involved as short season amateur) this may be a good thing and we can actually see if this would work in the USA in real life practice rather than just talking about it over and over. (If if works, then MLS may be interested if they can see it would grow the game or generate excitement or if it blows up, they have protected themselves and not taken the hit on it.) Maybe even try to get NISA and NPSL involved and spread the pro-rel to 3 levels. That would be something, but I am not holding my breath.
     
  8. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No... There is speculation that the DRC notified Silva that since Miami FC wasn’t in a league that could be promoted into MLS he didn’t have legal standing to file a complaint regarding the lack of pro/rel. By buying Ottawa FC’s license, Miami FC is now in a league that could/should have pro/rel with MLS.
     
  9. VBCity72

    VBCity72 Member+

    Aug 17, 2014
    Oki, J-pan
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have assumed that once USL rebranded and started a Div3 that they would do pro/rel once they filled out their new league. I think their commish has said he was open to the idea eventually.
     
  10. Expansion Franchise

    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    He said it as recently as in the halftime interview at the championship game.
    I'm still skeptical about it actually happening, though.
     
  11. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I think someone was stretching for a point. Apparently Silva had no standing in the lawsuit because there was no harm to his team as his team was not a league where it had anything to promote or relegate to, and as the USL has a two level structure... yadda, yadda, yadda

    I don't think there's anything there, just some commentators wanting there to be something.
     
  12. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    pro/rel is great until you actually get on with the business of doing it
     
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  13. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    OSEG burned too many bridges and they know it. CPL will move on to find new owners and OSEG already said that if a CPL team arrives in Ottawa, they would be able to use TD Place.

    USL was never really successful in Canada, it's for the best that they stay in the US, more opportunities for more US cities & players.

    Also, there's no longer a point for USL to count Canadians as domestics either.

    CPL doesn't want MLS reserve teams in the top tier.

    As for L1O, that would make sense as the level is much better than people realize. It will happen eventually but it isn't a priority right now. Once CPL launch a D2 league then I think TFC II will move there while Montreal Impact and Vancouver Whitecaps will attempt to put teams there as well

    Canadian USL-2 teams plays there due to lack of alternatives. BC Soccer will launch a Tier 3 league and have already warned existing teams in USL-2 that Article 73 will be enforced. BC teams will have to join the new league, with the CSA including the teams in the Canadian Championship, it would be a done deal.

    Thunder Bay was exempt from joining L1O due to distance from Southern Ontario teams (Winnipeg is closer than Toronto). Once a Prairies League launches, it makes more sense to have them join it than L1O

    The Fury selling their rights to a US group + relocation looks like the blueprint in the case of Canadian teams no longer being allowed to play in MLS.
     
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  14. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    #1639 Robert Borden, Dec 13, 2019
    Last edited: Dec 13, 2019
    The Victoria Highlanders will leave USL League 2 to join the Pacific Coast Soccer League in 2020. The goal is to join the new BC League 1 in 2021 which will be sanctioned by the CSA as Division 3.
    It is expected that TSS Rovers will do the same.
     
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  15. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles
  16. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    #ProRelForUSA
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Coaching vacancies:
    • Orlando City B (USL1)
    • Sacramento Republic (USLC)
    • LA Galaxy II (USLC)
    • Inter Miami II (USL1)
    Orlando City and LA2 technically have an interim.

    Defunct:
    • Lansing Ignite (USL1)
    • Ottawa Fury (USLC)
    Filled:
    • Colorado Switchbacks (USLC) - Alan Koch (former FC Cincinnati head coach)
    • Richmond Kickers (USL1) - Darren Sawatzky (former FC Tucson head coach)
    • Hartford Athletic (USLC) - Radhi Jaïdi (former Southampton FC U23 head coach)
    • San Diego Loyal SC (USLC) - Landon Donovan (co-owner and Executive VP of Soccer Operations)
    • Real Monarchs (USLC) - Jamison Olave (interim head coach)
    • Chattanooga Red Wolves (USL1) - Jimmy Obleda (former Director of Coaching at BOCA Orange County)
    • OKC Energy FC (USLC) - John Pascarella (former Minnesota United assistant)
    • New England II (USL1) - Clint Peay (former North Carolina FC assistant)
    • San Antonio FC (USLC) - Alen Marcina (San Antonio FC assistant)
    • FC Tucson (USL1) - John Galas (FC Tucson assistant)
     
  17. 2in10

    2in10 Member+

    Reno 1868 FC and Nevada Coyotes FC (UPSL)
    United States
    Jun 19, 2016
    Sparks, NV
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  18. JDogindy

    JDogindy Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Given the imbalance in the East (unless they suddenly add another team to make up the difference), teams will play one or two opponents an additional time. This may be good for some teams from a rivalry standpoint, but more likely, we'll see Louisville City get extra matches against Hartford and Atlanta United 2.
     
  19. canammj

    canammj Member

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    And looks like Rochester did not make it back either ?

    My other surprise, is no team from from Championship to USL -1 ( I am looking at LAG 2, Sporting 2, ATL 2, RBNY 2)
    as examples. Would have boosted USL-1 size, brought down USL-C a bit to maybe make scheduling a little more manageable)

    Also, are there rumors of a USL 3rd division? Not sure if that is meant to fall between USL 1 and USL 2 ?
    I tried Googling because someone told me this oddly enough at an NFL game this week !
     
  20. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  21. JDogindy

    JDogindy Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Watch as it becomes "No Rhinos in 2021", then 2022, and so forth.
     
  22. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  23. 2in10

    2in10 Member+

    Reno 1868 FC and Nevada Coyotes FC (UPSL)
    United States
    Jun 19, 2016
    Sparks, NV
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is the old PDL. It is called USL League 2.
     
  24. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    And none of the summer amateur leagues should ever be considered part of the professional soccer "triangle". They aren't D4 - there is no "Division 4".

    The PDL (and NPSL and others) are summer leagues for college players. They are not professional, the teams don't own the players, they can't transfer players in or out, they aren't going to win the league and get promoted to a pro league, ever.
     
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