USL General News thread

Discussion in 'United Soccer Leagues' started by thefishy, Sep 28, 2014.

  1. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Westchester is at 1,389 average right now, a bit behind last year, but we also have absolutely no clue about their club finances or how much ownership is willing to lose each year, so we have no idea if they'll make it or not.
     
  2. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They'll be losing 7 figures but I'm not sure their owner will care.

    Crowley said that Stockade had revenue of $100,000 in 2023 and expenses of $115,000 on $0 in salaries. That was when they were temporarily in Poughkeepsie.

    They've switched from NPSL to Wilt's League for Clubs this season, so I guess we'll find out if it makes a difference.

    Travel must have gone up a bit as the other 4 clubs in their division are on Long Island.
     
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  3. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Athletic Boise got 7,211 at their first home game.
     
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  4. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I did see that Madison is turning a profit in League One with around 4,000 average attendance the last two years (4,056 in 2024 and 4,019 in 2025). I'm not sure if that translates to 7 figure losses for 1,300ish.
     
  5. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Profit/break even. Their parent company owning the stadium must help.
     
  6. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Credit to him for his commitment to transparency.

    That said, he lamented the fact that to really grow his franchise, he'd have to sell some part of it, even though ( a ) that's how startups grow and ( b ) dude's net worth is $600M. (Obviously, that does not mean he can go access $600M tomorrow, but he doesn't need to do that, either.)
     
  7. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Forward Madison are also for investors to take the club to the next level. I misspoke above, the Stadium is owned by the city and operated by Big Top Sports and Entertainment, who own Forward Madison and a USL Super League team.
     
  8. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What these people seem to not get is that no matter if you have aspirations to go to "the next level," you are still in Madison, Wisconsin, MSA #86, 700k people in the metro.

    Market. Size. Matters. There are no Bournemouths or Brentfords in MLS and not many in USL-C (Charleston is bigger than Madison...though Monterey is smaller than both). It just doesn't work that way. That plucky little club that wins and is in an ABC After School Special is largely a myth.

    Hudson Valley has a large population, but are they really going to exploit that without serious investment that they likely will never get back?
     
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  9. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hudson Valley is a big place and the only population center between the NYC suburbs and Albany is around Poughkeepsie. I don't think a fully pro club could survive there.
     
  10. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    and just for the record there are parts of Poughkeepsie that are worse than Patterson, NJ.
     
  11. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not sure about that. But my knowledge is Patterson is about 20 years older than my knowledge of Poughkeepsie. Poughkeepsie is nowhere near as bad as Newburgh but then Beacon used to be a crime-ridden dump and now it's Brooklyn Heights North.
     
  12. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #3587 msilverstein47, Apr 9, 2026 at 11:44 AM
    Last edited: Apr 9, 2026 at 11:50 AM
    Not sure if you remember going back or not...but there was a top-notch USL W-league team which played out of Newburgh. They recruited from all over the country! Yep, best donuts around can now be found in Beacon and the art museum there is also pretty good!!!
     
  13. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't remember the Hudson Valley Quickstrike Lady Blues. They were a feeder team to Sky Blue FC no?
     
  14. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    not sure about them being a feeder, but I did attend their semi-final playoff loss to Pali from California and I would guess they had nearly 1,000 in attendance that day in Newburgh. Once they lost their grant to house their players at Mt. St. Marys, they folded up shop.
     
  15. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  16. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    That's even weirder than putting a team in Sherman.
     

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