USL Expansion General discussion

Discussion in 'USL Expansion' started by mikehurst21, Jan 4, 2016.

  1. At the American soccer organization USL, they must have raised their eyebrows in 2022.
    Via their website, they receive a short and powerful message with the following text:
    'Hey! I would like to start a new professional club. What do you need from my side?"
    The message comes from a Dutchman named Danny Dekker (41).
    The sender of these two sentences is now having a laugh in a coffee shop in Vleuten, Utrecht.
    'Afterwards I heard that they get as many as eighty applications every year. Often people already have their entire market in view, a completely thought-out plan and a group of owners behind them. Most of them still don't get through and now they saw those two sentences of mine come in.' He sips his flat white. 'Apparently it triggered something in them.'

    https://www.vi.nl/pro/de-nederlander-die-vanaf-nul-een-profclub-in-new-york-bouwt
     
  2. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  3. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  4. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Jan 26, 2005
    Southern Kelehfornya
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  6. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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  7. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  8. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    #ProRelForUSA
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes. Not good. Especially to take the same color scheme, or close enough, to USL bottom-dwellers for like three straight years.
     
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    JDogindy Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  10. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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  11. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Between 2014 and 2015, the third division leapt from 14 teams to 24 with the addition of seven MLS reserve teams and six independent clubs. (Dayton, the Charlotte Eagles and Orlando City left the league for the net 10.)

    Of the six independent clubs, four remain.
     
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  12. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    It's wild to think that this is made up entirely of independent clubs. I'm assuming a few won't make it into next year, because there's always some attrition, but there's a non zero chance of 28 D2 and 21 D3 pro teams next year in USL alone. There will likely be 4 independent MLS Next Pro teams along with the 27 2nd team sides (DC, Montreal, and SD don't have MLSNP teams yet).

    That's 53 independent teams at the D2 or D3 level if everyone miraculously survives.
     
  13. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  14. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Is the 2024-25 loss due to NISA?
     
  15. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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  16. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  17. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ...and the stadiums are going to be within walking distance :eek:
     
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  18. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    That might be one of the more fun "double headers" possible. Get a match in at one stadium and then exit it and walk to the other one for the next game.

    Even better, buy tickets for two simultaneous games and leave the one you're at if the other is more exciting.
     
  19. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To be fair, it is a slightly lengthy walk. The doubleheader would be entirely doable, the latter idea...you'd have to bail on Game A early
     
  20. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    So the teams should just merge now, be called Cleveland United and jump both leagues right to MLS !

    Seriously, I am ok with 2 teams in same city if our modern soccer history was more established to the point that both teams would draw well. Both LA team draw ok, NY is kind of mixed, but we really don't have too many other large cities with 2 teams to draw as comparison with the top league.
    Sure, some of our metros have 3rd teams- USL OCSC is in So California market, Brooklyn is coming to NY market...I sure there are some other examples.... but nothing in the way of London or Buenos Aires.
    The thing is, since they would be in different leagues, except for maybe the Open Cup or a friendly, they will never play each other....kind of hard to build a rival that way.
     
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  21. Salacious Bum

    Salacious Bum Member

    Jun 5, 2010
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    This is a fun thought experiment. It's also batsh#t crazy.

    There is absolutely no chance that BOTH of these projects get done. Zero. Zilch. Completely infeasible considering the market, current political climate regarding public financing, resources of those involved, and a hundred other factors.

    It's one or the other, if any at all. Fun to daydream but let's rein it in a bit, eh?
     
  22. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    I guess my dripping sarcasm did not come through.:rolleyes:
    Nothing against Cleveland, 1 project off he ground would be hard enough even if it were full MLS.
    But USL, MLSNP and USL-SL are special challenges
     
  23. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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  24. Doogh

    Doogh Member+

    Oct 5, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Dream Of Milwaukee Pro Soccer In 2026 Is Dead | Anonymous Eagle

    How many USL Championship expansion teams will launch in 2026?

    Milwaukee is basically dead, for now.
    Arkansas, Buffalo having funding and/or infrastructure setbacks.
    Iowa is set to launch in 2028, with early 2026 as groundbreaking of their new stadium
    Jacksonville...2026? Are they going to stadium share the same college sports stadium with the women's team?
    Santa Barbara...2026? Mostly radio silence on that front.
    Brooklyn...2026?
    Dallas will play at the Cotton Bowl in 2027.
     

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