USL Expansion General discussion

Discussion in 'USL Expansion' started by mikehurst21, Jan 4, 2016.

  1. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    Then back to my original question, who gains by USL attempting to put a team in this market?
     
  2. Blando13

    Blando13 Member+

    Dec 4, 2013
    Lee's Summit, MO
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I mean, if USL gains an expansion fee no one feels great about that answer, but that's the truth. If it's successful, the USL gains knowledge on how to build something within a MLS market, if it fails, maybe it prepares them better the next time, or convinces them not to try. It's not like FC Dallas is just unreal in the market or that the market isn't big enough for multiple teams. If the location works because the city wants to be a "partner" in building the right facility then so be it.
     
  3. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Frisco and Garland are about 20 miles apart. Frisco is in Denton County (pop 1,007,703) and Collin County (1,195,359) while Garland is mostly in Dallas County (2,606,358). Tarrant County (2,182,947) borders all three.

    The USL1 team, Texoma, is going to play in Sherman which is part of Grayson County (146,907) which borders both Denton and Collin to the north. There are several other smaller but growing counties near both places and honestly Garland is probably easier to reach for people in places like Plano.
     
  4. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    Any rumor of stadium site?
    Garland does have multiple stops on a light rail line, something Frisco doesn't and may never get.
    Cotton Bowl still has been transit with a light line stop at the front door.
     
  5. Minutemanii

    Minutemanii Member+

    Dec 29, 2005
    Abington MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When will this site be updated to include the team that made it to the USL final this season, RIFC?
     
  6. JDogindy

    JDogindy Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Better to just make a thread. Some MLS sub forums are ghost towns.
     
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  7. Minutemanii

    Minutemanii Member+

    Dec 29, 2005
    Abington MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rev's supporter here but I'd like to say that my interest in USL has increased, especially since I have a great USL organization just a little further down the road from me at RIFC. I went to 3 of their matches last season and was quite impressed at the way things were run and the passion of their supporters. I am also very keen to check out their brand new 10k stadium, which will open next season.

    It's interesting to me as I believe the USL and their tiers of leagues could eventually morph into a Pro-Rel system and that whole infrastructure may put pressure on MLS to accelerate their own improvement curve. I'm not suggesting that I'm for Pro-Rel in MLS, only, I think it would be good to try it out in the USL space, as USL appears to me to be more audacious and willing to try things.

    I also think it's fascinating and great that grassroots soccer appears to be happening all across this country, and in Canada. So cool that we appear to be heading towards a country that has big teams and many smaller teams, just like in the UK! Who knows? We may have the potential to someday dwarf other countries in terms of grassroots soccer.
     
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  8. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    Agree !
    While I have been to every MLS stadium except for Austin and Miami ( and many cities twice as I see old stadiums first and come back later for the new ones) , I am adding more and more USL stops on my travels. Rhode Island's project looks really cool.
    Yeh, it's too bad we will never have 3-4-5 unified divisions of pro soccer under one roof/league, but it is fun to see what some lower division teams are up to. Not every MLS team/stadium have the only fans in this country.
     
  9. Minutemanii

    Minutemanii Member+

    Dec 29, 2005
    Abington MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well said! And as I said before, it's so cool to me that I have an MLS team and a USL Championship team so close by. Both are 35-45 minutes from my house!
     
  10. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    I was trying to find a weekend this year where the REV's and Rhode Island were playing on separate days as I wanted to see the new Rhode Island Stadium. (Plus I was trying to work in a Red Sox game). Rhode Islands stadium puts it in Louisville Stadium class. Well done.
     
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  11. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    The pile of delays for both USL-C & USL-1 sure seems to be increasing for whatever reason.
    Feel free to update or correct me, but these are the ones I am aware of-

    Brooklyn- as noted above
    Santa Barbara- delayed due to jump from USL-1 to USC-C
    Des Moines- Stadium site (cleanup?)
    Milwaukee- funding problems
    OKC- could find a usable stadium- waiting for a new one

    Yet other projects got done stadium wise -- Spokane, Lancaster, Lexington, Monterey Bay

    Offset by teams lost- N Colorado, Reno, Fresno, RG Valley

    The wild ride of lower division soccer !
     
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  12. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Paterson, NJ gets a USL League One team playing in Hinchcliffe Stadium, which is on a few historic places registries and got a $94 million restoration and upgrade that finished in 2023.

    https://www.uslleagueone.com/news_article/show/1331531

    Eric Stover, who has worked with the New York Red Bulls and Cosmos, will be co-founder and CEO.
     
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  13. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Another team that has to schedule around baseball as the New Jersey Jackals of the Frontier League plays there
     
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  14. catfish9

    catfish9 Member+

    Jul 14, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But this is rare case where a baseball team is playing in an awkawardly configured football/soccer stadium. I hate when its the other way around.
     
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  15. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    It's a weird stadium situation. It actually was a baseball stadium for the Negro League first. The redesign and upgrades that were done for the 2023 reopening were done with HS sports in mind, mostly football.
     
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  16. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Welp, that's it for them, then.
     
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  17. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Apparently they got $2.5 million from the local government or preservation society to start the team.
     
  18. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1145 kenntomasch, Feb 14, 2025
    Last edited: Feb 14, 2025
    I love this narrative that says, “Well, NOW we’ll see meaningful growth in the game.”

    To which I say, “have you been paying freaking attention lately?”

    Haysoos, these Johnny Come Latelies who have no idea what things used to be like and what it took to get here.
     
  19. Doogh

    Doogh Member+

    Oct 5, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Erik Stover? That's a name I haven't heard in a while. USL needs to stay away from these former NASL types. They're poison.
     
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  20. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Names like that resurfacing are pretty telling with the D1 and pro/rel talk.
     
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  21. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Stover is a big pro/rel advocate. There is a tell.
     
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  22. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Heck, I'm 40 and didn't learn that outdoor soccer existed until I was 7 or 8.
     
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  23. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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