USL Expansion General discussion

Discussion in 'USL Expansion' started by mikehurst21, Jan 4, 2016.

  1. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They're supposedly going to "transfer their rights," unlike what has historically happened, where the team just disappeared in a sea of red ink. The owners will find someone who wants to get in on USLC, but where that will be remains to be seen. It doesn't have to be California.

    And you know SLO's metro area only has 123,000 people in it, right? Santa Barbara's metro is even smaller than that. Whether people turn out in the much, much larger areas of Oakland and Monterey County isn't really an indicator of what might happen in the two areas you mentioned. Holy cow, man, it never ends with you, does it?
     
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  2. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Santa Barbara is already getting a League One team next year.
     
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  3. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #1078 falvo, Aug 29, 2023
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2023
    Santa Barbara County and Monterey County has around the same population.

    Cardinale Stadium at the old Fort Ord location in Seaside is nice but freezing from May to August.

    Frank Yallop's people told me they have big plans for Monterey Bay, even wanting to go to MLS but I doubt that would be possible as Ray Beshoff would need a lot of help.
     
  4. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, but much of Santa Barbara County's population is in and around Santa Maria or Vandenberg Air Force Base, both more than an hour's drive from Santa Barbara. The team should look to market toward Ventura and Oxnard, outside the county but closer to town.
     
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  5. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #1080 falvo, Aug 29, 2023
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2023
    Maybe but Watsonville, Salinas, Monterey and Santa Cruz isn't any better and their towns are pretty much spread out as well with a bunch of artichoke, lettuce, tomato and apple orchards in between.

    All they have for tourists would be Pebble Beach, Carmel or Pacific Grove with a total of 18,000 poeple.
     
  6. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Monterey Bay has to cobble together a bunch of communities in various directions, but it ends up with about 300,000 people within a 30 minute driving radius. Small market even by USLC standards, but something to work with.
     
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  7. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #1082 falvo, Aug 29, 2023
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2023
    The Monterey Bay area is so much better than Oakland -Alameda County..

    Just looked it up and that SB team will play at 10k seat La Playa Stadium at Santa Barbara City College.

    That is where UCSB coach Tim Vom Steeg used to coach.

    I can see him being involved somewhat.

    He used to have a great coaching system and tactics for the Gauchos.
     
  8. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So SD has rights to go elsewhere. Any clue how that works?
    I remember being at a Charlotte Independence game and a staff person said they were going to be allowed to relocate once MLS came in. Any word on that?
    I know there have been a lot of teams in a lot of places, has this ever actually happened before?
     
  9. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    SD Loyal sells the license to somebody, then that somebody starts up a new team somewhere. For the public it would be indistinguishable from a regular expansion team.
     
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  10. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Just like Austin shut down but was going to restart in Fort Worth until that stadium deal didn't go through.
     
  11. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Would the new owners assume any multi-year contracts that the Loyal still have or does the whole roster become free agents?
     
  12. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #1087 falvo, Aug 30, 2023
    Last edited: Aug 30, 2023
    With two new teams expanding next year in North Carolina and Rhode Island, I’m assuming players would go through a dispersal or expansion draft.

    On the other hand, if the Loyal end up winning a trophy this season, it would be kind of sad to see them break up.
     
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  13. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  14. JDogindy

    JDogindy Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hope this actually happens. The Queensboro FC debacle wasn't exactly fun.
     
  15. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    It is. They're actually fielding their women's team in the Super League this fall and they've already got the stadium deal worked out.
     
  16. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So NYC will have 3 professional teams.... a ways to go to catch up to London though !
    NYCFC and Brooklyn will be closer to each other than NYRB, so I see Open Cup matches in the future or maybe some other ways to play each other..
    Only other area of country with 3 teams would be So Cal with LAG,LAFC and OCSC.
     
  17. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Incorrect, as always.

    I do not believe the USL has ever had a dispersal draft or an expansion draft.
     
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  18. catfish9

    catfish9 Member+

    Jul 14, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Stadium deal? Another baseball stadium....fitting for a team from NY.
     
  19. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  20. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    https://www.uslchampionship.com/news_article/show/1305140

    An exclusive negotiation period through the end of this year.
     
  21. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    Interesting. Super League beats NWSL to Atlanta? (was ATL on NWSL list- I know Boston is coming)
    How well does USL-C do against ATL United?
     
  22. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    USL League One coming to Westchester, NY and aiming to play in 2025.

    https://www.uslleagueone.com/news_article/show/1309517

     
  23. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  24. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    If, and it's a big if, all the current teams return and all the proposed teams start next season, USL1 would go from 12 to 19 teams in a single year.
     
  25. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which would not be the biggest increase in a single year at the D3 level, either by sheer numbers or percentage.

    When the Great Reset happened in 1997, D3 went from 27 teams to 39 (increase of 12) and USL Pro went from 14 to 24 from 2014 to 2015 (increase of 71%) thanks to the MLS2 teams coming in. (And went from USL Pro to just USL to boot.)
     
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