USL Expansion General discussion

Discussion in 'USL Expansion' started by mikehurst21, Jan 4, 2016.

  1. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fuego tickets were free for years.

    The Fuego also did not have to pay players.
     
  2. aetraxx7

    aetraxx7 Member+

    Jun 25, 2005
    Des Moines, IA
    Club:
    Des Moines Menace
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Teams that need USL Championship teams...

    New Orleans, Riverside/Inland Empire, Milwaukee, Detroit (or Grand Rapids), Cleveland, Hampton Roads, Dallas-Fort Worth, San Fernando Valley, Fresno, New York (Staten Island, Brooklyn, Bronx), Boise
     
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  4. Expansion Franchise

    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    Too soon.
    They already have MLS and USL L1. I could see the Vaqueros going to NISA if they get their stadium built, though.
     
  5. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dallas has been such a hotbed for soccer that I could see a separate franchise being successful in USLC if it opened up shop away from Frisco.

    Sort of the same deal with the San Fernando Valley/Central Coast and the Inland Empire. It would be good to tap into those areas, considering the wealth of talent, and the fact that it can an hour+ drive to Carson or downtown LA for them.

    Add in NYC area to that too... Maybe find somewhere not close to the Red Bulls or NYCFC.

    But, I believe New Orleans would be the biggest hit of all. They have all the same potential as the Las Vegas Lights if they were to get a good ownership group.

    Obviously though, Detroit, Milwaukee, and Cleveland would be give a lot of marketability to the league.

    And Virginia Beach/Hampton Roads, Fresno, and Boise are those fringe candidates. There are others too who could fit in this category. I’d say they’d be good if they had good ownership.
     
  6. Expansion Franchise

    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    They've already announced a team in Queens.
     
  7. catfish9

    catfish9 Member+

    Jul 14, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    6,000 seat Virginia Beach Sportsplex stadium was literally built to house a USL type team. So many cities need to build such infrastructure. They have it. Just need good ownership to step up and use it.
     
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  8. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  9. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And on the Louisville page, they are adding a U23 team to USL-2 also.
    USL-2 has added a huge number of teams this off season.
     
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  10. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    And now New Mexico United going to have U23 team in USL2 per Albuquerque Newspaper.
    Can't almost keep up with additions.
    Interesting to see USL-C adding teams to USL-2
    MLS teams not as consistent with this and you also have to consider USL-1 is in between also.

    Common sense changes to our "Pyramid", need to be made or affiliations line up logically.
    A couple examples off the top of my head=

    MLS- Nashville
    USL-C Memphis
    USL- 1 Chattanooga
    USL-2 Nashville (a local team- could draw from Vandy, Middle Tenn colleges)

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    MLS Dallas
    USL-C OKC
    USL-1 North Texas- already owned
    USL-2 Texas United (in nearby Arlington)
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    MLS- Austin
    USL-C San Antonio (make peace)
    USL-1 Austin (Bold moves from C to 1 - I know requires cooperation for the good of the game)
    USL-2 Brazos Valley- short distance to Austin
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    Probably a ton of examples all over the country. (feel free to create your own:D)

    MLS & USL have generally cooperated (much to the chagrin of NASL-NISA-NPSL), SO why not just go the next step, define your levels , player movements, marketing and relationships on a geographical basis- since isn't there some kind of territorial rights anyway?
     
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  11. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  12. catfish9

    catfish9 Member+

    Jul 14, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  13. mikehurst21

    mikehurst21 Member

    Oklahoma City Energy FC
    United States
    Nov 6, 2013
    Moore Oklahoma
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    the next Championship expansion club is Monterrey California but Baltimore, Cleveland, and Milwaukee are in discussions
     
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  14. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The more interesting part is the comment that USL-C may cap out and more work to expand USL-1, which apparently have 5-10 more teams in the works. Can't find the article now on this. (Anyone?) Also, are any of these some of the USL-C "MLS-2" teams making the drop?
     
  15. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #915 falvo, May 9, 2020
    Last edited: May 9, 2020
    If the team ends up playing at California State University in Monterey Bay as is projected , that is only 70 miles from San Jose or an hour and 15 minute drive.

    They could easily partner with the Earthquakes and it would be a better partnership than with either Sacramento previously or with Reno at present.
     
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  16. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    CSMB is somewhat remote- going to be a drive in crowd. Do you market to Monterey only, or include Santa Cruz, Salinas etc ?
    I don't remember but who was that team years ago that played in the same area, their name and what stadium ?
     
  17. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #917 falvo, May 11, 2020
    Last edited: May 12, 2020
    Other than surfing and the beach boardwalk amusement rides , there isn’t much going on in SC as it’s mostly a beach town. They will probably use the Santa Cruz Breakers academy team as their youth team and market the Salinas area.

    From 1995–99 , the California Jaguars played at the Salinas Sports Complex. It’s located about ten miles from CSMB campus.
     
  18. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    CSU Monterey Bay just seems a strange place to put a team. There's not a ton of people down that way...
     
  19. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    #ProRelForUSA
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Paying that expansion fee, that's what matters.
     
  20. Expansion Franchise

    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    The expansion fee was already paid, in this particular case. It's not a new team, it's just Fresno-FC-by-the-Sea.
     
  21. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    #ProRelForUSA
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is that true?

    They've been talking about the Monterrey area for a little bit now. Even when Fresno FC was around.
     
  22. Expansion Franchise

    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018


    https://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/article236788128.html

    "Beshoff indicated in a separate interview that he’s had promising negotiations with California State University Monterey Bay to relocate the team to the soccer-only stadium at the campus."
     
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  23. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    #ProRelForUSA
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It was my mistake, thanks and sorry.

    I looked and remembered that it has been talked about since late Fall 2019 that Fresno could relocate to Monterey. I had confused it with USL East Bay, which was announced in 2017 for 2021 play.
     
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  24. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    How much is a USL expansion fee?
     
  25. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    #ProRelForUSA
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which level?

    USL Championship is around $10m and USL League One is supposedly up to $1m.
     

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