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Discussion in 'United Soccer Leagues' started by Sandon Mibut, Sep 2, 2007.

  1. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    I was looking at the league leaders on and noticed that whatever formula they use to calculate the statistical leaders fails to take into account players who have played for multiple teams this season.

    For instance, take Joey Gjertsen, who began the season at Vancouver and got traded to Montreal.

    Gjertsen played in 19 games for the Whitecaps for 1365 minutes, scoring 3 goals and an assist.

    He has played 8 games for the Impact for 572 minutes with 0 goals and 5 assists.

    His total numbers - 27 games, 1937 minutes, 3 goals and six assists SHOULD put him among the league leaders in games, assists and points.

    But, the USL's website credits the numbers put up with each team individually so Gjertsen doesn't get the credit he deserves.

    The 27 games he's played in is tied for the league-lead. They seem to think it's an important stat as it's the first one listed on the USL's stats page. But, Gjertsen isn't listed among the leaders. Also, because of the trade, he has a chance to finish with 29 games played even though USL teams only play 28. Montreal has 2 games remaining and if he plays in both he'll lead the league... assuming they give him credit.

    Gjertsen's 12 points should put him tied for 18th but, again, he isn't listed. And the five assists he's got with Montreal has him tied for third in that category but if the helper he got w/ Vancouver was included, he'd be third in assists, outright, and only three off the league leader, Dan Antoniuk of Atlanta. Given the pace he's gotten assists with the impact, it's not impossible he gets three in the final two games so he could tie for the league lead in assists and not be credited for it.

    How many players besides Gjertsen who switched USL clubs mid-season aren't getting full credit for the stats they've put up? Hopefully the folks at the USL realize this accounting mistake and take steps to correct it.
  2. ButlerBob

    ButlerBob Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2001
    Evanston, IL
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Have you thought about emailing them about the mistake? Maybe they would appreiciate knowing about it. I wouldn't be surprised that if they have some intern tallying up the stats each week. And the are doing it by team and didn't even realise or catch that it was the same player on two team. We've all had those instances at work, were we are doing a ton of stuff and miss something that is obivious to someone else.
  3. wjarrettc

    wjarrettc Member
    Staff Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Cliffs of Insanity
    Carolina Railhawks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've emailed their media relations dept. to notify them of the error.

    My guess is it's database software related (not intern related)
  4. Mikey mouse

    Mikey mouse Member

    Jul 27, 1999
    Charleston, SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I noticed this announcement this weekend

    the dont have much up the their soccer stuff to see how it works, but there seems to be a ton of data up on the hockey stuff. i guess they will be using it during the playoffs so it will be interesting to see how it works.

    honestly though, anything can be an improvement of there current database on the website (dont you think, that if they are tracking fouls, they would at least track yellow cards accumilated?)
  5. CFL-fan

    CFL-fan Member

    May 1, 2006
    I have used this product for the MISL. It is a POS. As a scorekeeper their is no way to correct an error and it puts out meaningless stuff during the match. The worst part is you get a confirmation box that has to be clicked for every enty before you can go to the next entry. i.e. If you have a shot, you select the player's number for the correct team, a pop-up says do you want to credit #X with a shot? You have to say yes then you follow the same procedure for the Save.

    Of course the MISL insists on the real-time feature which will produce a real time list of every shot, save, corner-kick, foul, offside (for outdoor), etc. When all you really need real-time is goals and cards.
  6. Mikeyratt

    Mikeyratt Member

    Jan 9, 2002
    Richmond, Va
    I've used pointstreak for hockey and its decent... for hockey... I don't know how it'll be for the USL though
  7. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Well, it's almost two weeks since I started this thread and the USL still hasn't adjusted the stats to show that Gjertsen played in a league-leading 29 games or finished with 6 assists - which should have him tied for third - and 12 points, which should have him tied for 20th.

    If the league can't get the stats right on their own page, what's the point of keeping them?

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