Post-match: USA vs. Venezuela - June 9, 2019

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by schrutebuck, Jun 9, 2019.

  1. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Let's talk again in a few weeks when the Gold Cup is done and dusted. Let us all have a frank talk.
     
  2. matabala

    matabala Member+

    Sep 25, 2002
    Hearsay, innuendo, second even third-person attribution....you need to watch more of the Perry Mason show. And from this flimsy evidence you're ready to pass judgement to say nothing of whether FJ is a good fit for this iteration of a National team?

    :rolleyes:
     
  3. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You clearly have spent ample time watching the Prosecutor on the Perry Mason show........;)
     
  4. Cynical US fan

    United States
    Mar 30, 2017
    Boston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I predict that the USMNT beats Guyana handily, and we struggle vs both Panama and TnT. That holds even with Pulisic and McKennie on board. With either Trapp or Bradley as DM, we will lose as we did in qualifiers.
    I won't impune GB like I did JK, which got me red-carded and tossed from BS after posting under another username for a decade, but I think we've got a real problem here. I really believe we should have had a well thought of foreign coach at the helm. It doesn't matter at all that such a coach isn't familiar with MLS or players abroad. There are always tapes (hopefully that player isn't sitting the bench) to review and camps to familiarize themselves with the potential players.
     
  5. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Love Perry Mason talk. Anyone else used to giggle when they realized the prosecutor was named Ham Burger?
     
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  6. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Watching the Peru-Venezuela in Copa America. That Venezuelan keeper, the same that played against us, Faríñez, is fantastic.
     
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  7. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He is the keeper I wish we had.
     
  8. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    The triple save was Shaolin Soccer stuff. And he's only 21, playing in Millonarios. Guy's going to Europe soon. Only reason that game is 0-0, Venezuela with 10.
     
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  9. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Hell I'd take Andre Blake right now.
     
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  10. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    And we tied this Peru, which is better than Venezuela, with Sarachan at the helm...
     
  11. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Not sure how close to an A team lineup Peru had, but that was a pretty "give some guys some looks" lineup from us too that game. Woof. And of course we conceded when Yedlin, more of a first team lock than anyone else who started, lost his man defensively.
     
  12. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Kind of annoyed that the ESPN announcers came back after going the first give min of the game without them.
     
  13. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am the one who first pointed out that specific quote and assessed it as troubling, back a week ago. The problem with NOT translating GB's statement is that I don't think that he can be telling the truth about what he is looking for. As I pointed out a week ago, how can you claim to be looking at stability and activity OVER passing at the position, and yet still manage to prioritize Bradley and Trapp over Adams? That simply doesn't make any logical sense. I guess it could turn on what you think "stability" means. Does it mean "experience"? Or does it more generally refer to soccer smarts, positional awareness and discipline, and the ability to keep turnovers down in bad spaces. Assuming it is not simply "experience," I again have to call BS on his comment. If he isn't flat out lying about what he wants, then it is even worse than I thought … because it means he is delusional.
     
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  14. zhe fulano

    zhe fulano Member

    Real Madrid
    United States
    Jan 31, 2010
    Florida Keys, USA
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I definitely see where you are coming from, but my gut tells me Berhalter sees Bradley as a I player who can adapt to whatever system he's put into.

    Bradley's role has varied somewhat throughout his career. He was much more offense oriented in Heerenveen (16 goals one season), but then again the Eredivisie is known for less than stellar defense. His role at BM in his Bundesliga days was much more disciplined, and he played it capably enough. At Chievo, they called him the "American Diesel" because of his work ethic.

    I think the adaptability Bradley has shown throughout his career has a lot to do with why Berhalter wants him on the squad. Just my guess. That said, I'm not sure how much diesel is left in that tank.
     
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  15. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    There’s a big difference between being on the squad (where many including me agree that’s not unreasonable) and where he is now - manning the central QB position that touches the ball the most.
     
  16. zhe fulano

    zhe fulano Member

    Real Madrid
    United States
    Jan 31, 2010
    Florida Keys, USA
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Gold Cup will tell us a few things, but it may not answer anything.

    After 10:00P.M. eastern tonight, let the posts begin!
     
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  17. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    And hey, try to have fun.
     
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  18. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Ah come on. Fun is not something I want to start at this point in my life. I think I will strive just to rise to the level of contentment.

    But I expect the match to be a disappointment and really only serve to increase my level of discontent. Or maybe just make me incontinent.
     
  19. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
    France.
    Appreciated this comment I read elsewhere:

    "if you are going to hate-watch this game...it says way more about you then anything the national team is doing."
     
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  20. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    The only reason I haven't watched every moment of the Gold Cup so far is competing games in the Copa America, and the fact that my wife will kill me if I don't moderate the amount of soccer on TV.
     
  21. laxcoach

    laxcoach Member+

    United States
    Jul 29, 2017
    intermountain west
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Excited to see McKennie and CP together in the middle. Bummer that means Arriola starts at wing but given the roster it's about those 2 for the most part. Boyd will be an interesting watch too if he starts.
     
  22. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
    France.
    Is McKennie in good form?
     
  23. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    McKennie’s good club form has yet to translate to the USMNT for whatever reason. It would be great if Berhalter could make that happen.

    He was also injured late in the season and it’s is surprising that he returned and can play in the GC.
     
  24. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
    France.
    So the answer's really no. And I'm hearing what I see when I catch him playing Schalke: he's all over the place, both in position and execution.

    Hope he plays a lot for us in this tourney. The midfield roles and responsibilities Berhalter's giving him are better than playing swiss army knife.
     
  25. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    I’m watching the replay now and he was excellent in the first half.
     

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