USA vs JAPAN the FINAL Sunday July 5, 2015

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  1. kolabear

    kolabear Member+

    Nov 10, 2006
    los angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Having posted the stuff about ratings, here's what I wonder about the tactics and matchups: what's happened to that defensive hole that supposedly exists in the US defensive midfield and does Japan have the players to do something about it?

    We all (it seems) believe France could do something about it, but France didn't make it to the semifinals. Many, coming into the World Cup, probably thought Maroszan could do something about it, even in the absence of Kessler, but Maroszan was hobbled - a big blow for Germany. Aya Miyama is a terrific midfielder but Coach Sasaki has been deploying her out wider, on the left side. In the knockout rounds, he's brought back Kawasumi to the right side, where Seattle Reign and NWSL fans are quite familiar with how effective she is.

    But against the US, does Sasaki move Miyama more centrally? Or someone else? Or do they somehow manage it more subtly - picking their spots to play in towards the middle in front of the US defensive line?

    And what did Australia do against the US? They looked as good as anybody against the US for a long stretch of the game. How did they manage that and is that something Japan can learn from?

    Otherwise, I think the game favors the US. The artificial turf, ironically enough, for all the US complaints about it led by Wambach, favors the US. The artificial turf, combined with the US athletic ability to press and close down on opponents will make it hard for Japan to play their possession style of game to good effect - although apparently the field at Vancouver is better than that at Edmonton where Japan struggled against a similar, hard-tackling England team.
     
  2. silver_eagle

    silver_eagle New Member

    Apr 11, 2015
    Just like I said before the start of the tournament - any other outcome than USA winning would be a massive surprise, at least in my eyes. Anyway, before the final I have just three wishes:

    - no penalties please (unless we make it all the way through the shootout, which is highly unlikely)
    - if the USA wins, please do it fair and square so we can praise the players not the refs (yeah, it's a 1999 reference to some extent, although I'm fully aware poor refereeing is not players' fault)
    - Golden Ball for Carli Lloyd, it's her time and nobody deserves it more
     
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  3. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed. This is really a win/win for me.

    It has my vote for goal of the tournament

    For all warnings being made, this has not been the style of the US attack because that is now how the US plays. So I don't expect this to be a tactic.

    She has been inconsistent, but when she needs to score, she does.
    The way Japan play, the US will need somebody who had better movement than Abby.
     
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  4. Plxix

    Plxix BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Mar 13, 2006
    Btw, Rapinoe 's birthday is today. I have a feeling about this and remember, it's about feelings, and nothing more than.
     
  5. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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  6. Gilmoy

    Gilmoy Member+

    Jun 14, 2005
    Pullman, Washington
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #81 Gilmoy, Jul 5, 2015
    Last edited: Jul 5, 2015
    2015/07/05 Sun:
    Ch52.USA - Japan

    USA (Jillian Ellis): Identical people, but ... 4-4-2 :eek:
    10© Carli Lloyd, 13 Alex Morgan
    15 Megan Rapinoe, 14 Morgan Brian, 12 Lauren Holiday, 17 Tobin Heath
    22 Meghan Klingenberg, 19 Julie Johnston, 4 Becky Sauerbrunn, 11 Ali Krieger
    1 Hope Solo

    Japan (Norio Sasaki): Identical (for the 3rd match in a row).
    17 Yuki Ogimi, 11 Shinobu Ohno
    8© Aya Miyama, 13 Rumi Utsugi, 6 Mizuho Sakaguchi, 9 Nahomi Kawasumi
    5 Aya Sameshima, 4 Saki Kumagai, 3 Azusa Iwashimizu, 19 Saori Ariyoshi
    18 Ayumi Kaihori
     
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  7. jackdoggy

    jackdoggy Member+

    May 16, 2014
    Big D
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Was Hope's most tested game Australia?
     
  8. BUDOKAN

    BUDOKAN Member

    May 31, 2006
    Tokyo
    Club:
    Yokohama F Marinos
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    TOKYO is ready ![​IMG]
     
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  9. Hendrixforpope

    Hendrixforpope Member+

    Barcelona
    Brazil
    Dec 15, 2007
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
  10. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow! That was quick!
     
  11. Will90

    Will90 Member

    Sep 20, 2014
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    What a goal, take a bow Lloyd.
     
  12. Hendrixforpope

    Hendrixforpope Member+

    Barcelona
    Brazil
    Dec 15, 2007
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    This could get ugly.
     
  13. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow!

    Another set piece, another from Lloyd.
     
  14. Will90

    Will90 Member

    Sep 20, 2014
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Wow, that was a quick game guys. Congrats USA. 2-0.
     
  15. Transparent_Human

    Oct 15, 2006
    Pale blue dot
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mauritius
    Well that was fun. Time to go see what things the frat boys on twitter are drunk tweeting
     
  16. Hendrixforpope

    Hendrixforpope Member+

    Barcelona
    Brazil
    Dec 15, 2007
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
  17. usafan1985

    usafan1985 Member

    Jun 13, 2015
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    GOAL AGAIN!!

    Unreal!
     
  18. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is this a video game?
     
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  19. usafan1985

    usafan1985 Member

    Jun 13, 2015
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unreal! I'm shocked
     
  20. Will90

    Will90 Member

    Sep 20, 2014
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    4-0 USA.

    Worst womens world cup final performance ever?
     
  21. Juanele

    Juanele Member+

    Aug 4, 1999
    Colorado, US
    well…I wanted a good game to watch as a neutral. Time to watch a movie I guess
     
  22. Hendrixforpope

    Hendrixforpope Member+

    Barcelona
    Brazil
    Dec 15, 2007
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    This is a f***ing training session.
     
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  23. Will90

    Will90 Member

    Sep 20, 2014
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I expected revenge, but not of this level. Japan have given up here, expect a few more goals.
     
  24. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is not what I was talking about when I said win/win.
     
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  25. PaulV

    PaulV Member

    Mar 14, 2003
    Ottawa, Canada
    Great if you're a US supporter but not a very compelling Final. Actually, this tournament hasn't really had great games since the quarter finals. The Germany-France game might turn out to be the high point (for the neutral observer, just wanting to see good games). Lots of entertaining games early on but kind of fizzled out.
     
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