Post-match: USA vs. Guyana, June 18, 2019 - Gold Cup

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  1. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    USA wins 4-0 behind goals from Arriola, Zardes, and Boyd (x2).

    McKennie was substituted due to injury.
  2. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We beat powerhouse Guyana.

  3. Flipstar508

    Flipstar508 Member

    Sep 7, 2006
    Worcester, MA
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Zardes touch is so bad it looks like the ball is running away from him
  4. The Foo Fighter

    The Foo Fighter Member+

    Mar 15, 2011
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I really like Boyd. His passing is excellent. He's dynamic and wants to press the game on the front-foot. He's just plain exciting.

    Imagine if we had a highly rated winger to play on the opposite flank. Perhaps someone who just signed for Chelsea?


    That's what I want.

    Edit: I might have scored one tonight if you swap me for Zardes. Comically awful.
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  5. napper

    napper Member+

    Jan 14, 2014
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Change in tactics was good. Boyd was good.

    Lima and Zimmerman getting turned by Guyana was concerning.

    We still look suspect if a better presses us.
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  6. lmorin

    lmorin Member+

    Mar 29, 2000
    New Hampshire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All I can say is that is absolutely great to finally have a striker who truly has a nose for the goal!
  7. Black Tide

    Black Tide Member+

    Mar 8, 2007
    the 8th Dimension
    The US just made a bunch of Semi-Pro and 4th and 5th tier English league players look pretty good. Despite the scoreline, this was not close to good enough. Honestly, at this point, I truly believe Gregg is the problem. He is too clever by half. No one seems comfortable, and if Guyana had someone up top that could shoot the ball, I think this game would have been rather ugly.
  8. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Memphis, Tn
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    that was satisfactory.

    zardes is beyond awful- if any of you give him credit for anything more than being physically solid tonight youre just an idiot.
  9. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Boyd has jumped in and made an immediate impact. Certainly a lot of concerns although the result was never in doubt. Didn't care much for the CB's.
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  10. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Arsenal FC
    Hard to take much from this, because Guyana is so bad, but...

    Stock up: Arriola's first touch, Boyd, Jozy in absentia

    Stock down: Arriola's finishing, Ream, Zimmerman/Long, Bradley, Trapp, Zardes, Pulisic as a 10

    Bradley and Trapp both looked off the pace against a team of borderline professionals, Ream turned the ball over way too often, Zardes should have scored 4 goals on purpose rather than the 1 he scored by accident, and the CBs looked half-asleep whenever they were called into action. Pulisic failed to influence the game from central midfield against the 177th-ranked team in the world because he isn't a #10.

    Boyd was dynamic, but should have scored more, ditto Arriola.

    This Berhalter system is so stifling. Maybe it takes off with more time, but I just don't see how that's going to happen, either on a theoretical or practical level.
  11. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Boyd is a good player who is going to help us this cycle, assuming he stays healthy.

    We lost way too many one-on-one duels versus a team of Guyana's caliber, at least until they got tired.

    Zardes being more dangerous with his face than the rest of his body tells all you need to know about him as a player.

    Other than that, I got nothing.
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  12. largegarlic

    largegarlic Member+

    Jul 2, 2007
    I would say that the performance was minimally acceptable.

    I thought they did better in the 2nd half playing through the press. Instead of forcing it to Bradley/Trapp every time, other players were checking back and getting on the ball, or they were playing over the top to Boyd and Arriola. Brooks (if he's ever healthy) will help a lot in this area too.

    I've heard it said that passing is one of Ream's strengths. I confess that I don't really see it. And he also had one of his signature moments where he fell asleep defensively and almost allowed a goal.

    Boyd is Arriola+. Not necessarily a world beater, but an improvement on what we had.

    I didn't see the Jamaica game, so I'm just going on the general consensus that Mihailovic was horrible there. With that context I thought he was decent tonight.

    Strange that Altidore didn't get any minutes. If he's not at all fit, it's going to be a rough (and short) tournament.

    Steffen didn't force the short passes out of the back tonight. When it wasn't on, he wasn't afraid just to give it a ride.
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  13. FeedhimtothepigsArold

    Apr 7, 2014
    Oxford United FC
    I like Boyd but I think many fans are getting carried away. Vs Guyana he had a good game.

    I want to see how he does against better full backs. I thought he was ok vs Venezuela and good vs a weak Guyana. TnT should be a good game to get a better evaluation on him.
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  14. Reccossu

    Reccossu Member+

    Jan 31, 2005
    Even zardes is better than that zardes. But the goal was uber-zardes, so maybe it evens out?

    This team is likely to lose in the quarterfinals.

    CBs were bad. Disappointed.

    I think arriola was committed. He and Boyd were the only ones that didn't treat it like a friendly. Just based on that I can forgive a bunch.
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  15. kingshark

    kingshark Member+

    Mar 3, 2006
    Really don't want to see Zardes (stone first touch) and Ream (slow as hell) to represent USMNT, but no obvious options for this roster. Sad. Also, I feel GGG loves Zardes.
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  16. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles
    I think the player pool is so poor right now that we should go back to scouring the world for dual nationals.
  17. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  18. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Fire Crown 4 Life (or until they change it again)
    Jan 9, 2004
    Soldier Field Media Deck. First Row.
    Philadelphia Union
    3 points. 4-0. Good enough. Hope McKennie is healthy, but my guess is he sits on Saturday.
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  19. skim172

    skim172 Member+

    Feb 20, 2013
    Excuse me, he quite clearly eyeball'd that one in.
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  20. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    If McKennie actually is hurt, my inkling is that Berhalter would go with a Bradley-Trapp duo in a must-win match.

    That's something that will make the internet jump with joy. For now, he'll pair Roldan with one of the two.
  21. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Score was fine, though I would have liked a goal or 2 more.

    Zardes was bad, the guy could have had a hat trick with finishing that was just bad instead of awful. Get well soon Jozy.

    Boyd was awesome, despite the 2 sitters he missed, he's a great addition to the wings which we sorely needed. Arriola was a nice surprise too, he was making fantastic runs and the finish on the goal was gorgeous. He was the best player on the field in the first half IMO, though he did have a fairly standard Arriola performance in the 2nd.

    Bradley, Mckennie, and Pulisic were meh. Both Bradley and Mckennie had fantastic passes that lead to goals, and Pulisic had a fantastic opening 20 minutes. The attack largely remained static when they had the ball though, and Weston particularly seemed to struggle with Guyana's physicality. I really hope he's okay though.

    The backline actually left me with a lot of concerns. They struggled to play the ball out of the back, made some poor decisions when pressured, and got beat at times when they really shouldn't have. I'm curious to see if Miazga gets his starting spot back. Lima can deliver some nice crosses though.

    Steffen made a nice save the one time he had to.

    Our next 2 games should tell us a lot more. I would keep a similar starting XI swapping Jozy for Zardes (if Jozy can go) and I would give Miazga another chance.
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  22. CyphaPSU

    CyphaPSU Member+

    Mar 16, 2003
    Not Far
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I want to give Arriola his due; he was energetic and made some good runs in addition to a tidy finish. Can he repeat that, though, against higher-caliber defenses? Really need him to be more accurate with his crosses.

    I am frightened by our center backs. I miss John Brooks, but he’s only one dude. We absolutely need more from this position.
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  23. ClappinJonny99

    Borussia Dortmund, Liverpool, DC United
    United States
    Jun 15, 2019
    Boyd Mckennie and Pulisic are on a whole different level than the rest of the team. Although, Arriola looked good tonight too. Has anyone seen Boyd play at club level? I’m surprised he was loaned out, looks like he belongs in a top European league like the bundesliga.
    Bradley’s passing was great, but he’s just too damn slow, looks like an old man.
    How is Zardes still allowed to represent the USMNT? This just angered me more given that Sargent was passed up.
  24. ClappinJonny99

    Borussia Dortmund, Liverpool, DC United
    United States
    Jun 15, 2019
    I think we would honestly be better off with some of the u20’s at this point. I miss Brooks too
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  25. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    Mar 17, 2007
    Colorado (formerly northern Virginia)
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bright spots:
    Arriola and Boyd both
    That Pulisic was not happy he came off

    Zardes is officially an orange traffic cone
    Bradley had some good touches and passes but he is now too darn slow
    Defense untested
    Trap still sucks
    McKennie’s injury

    Overall our pace and intensity are too slow and I put that on our crappy coach
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