Pre-match: USA v Netherlands Round of 16 12/3 10 am ET

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  1. usfootball20

    usfootball20 Member+

    May 15, 2012
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Christian, Gio/Weah, whoever the 9 is at the time, whoever the 2 non-Tyler midfielders are, Dest
     
  2. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Member+

    Apr 10, 2002
    California - Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep. Just because he was still jogging around doesn't mean that he had the energy. In the last two games, he faded in the last 15-20 minutes which resulted in fouls and inability to advance the ball.
     
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  3. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Lack of bench is likely what will do us in.
     
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  4. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah but we have a top 5 player who is arguably our most offensively gifted player, who apparently is fit, who no one knows how or if he'll figure into this match.

    We don't have great depth by any means. But we've also got Gio sitting there unused....
     
  5. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Given the knock to CP I would like to see Gio get the start. Run a 4-4-2 diamond:

    Gio - Weah
    Aaronson
    Wes - Musah
    Adams
    Jedi - Ream - Zimmerman - Dest
     
  6. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Let me be more specific: MMA getting tired, with any replacement being significantly inferior for the integrity of the whole, is what will do us in.
     
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  7. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Any updates on injuries? Wondering about Sargent who I’ve heard zero about since he came off
     
  8. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Usually, NNGN (no news is good news) with injuries in a WC.
     
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  9. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Let's hope!
    [​IMG]
     
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  10. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    It hadn't occured to me how special this match would be for Seginho Dest
     
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  11. usfootball20

    usfootball20 Member+

    May 15, 2012
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He had scans on his ankle (wasn’t knee) today. No report on the results yet.
     
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  12. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yup, Dest hattie confirmed
     
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  13. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    I'd almost rather start the bench guys and let them play the first half than have to worry about them getting a result in the 2nd half and/or extra time:
     
  14. nobody

    nobody Member+

    Jun 20, 2000
    In some areas we have good depth. We have excellent depth on the wings with guys who can also come in for a midfielder if we want to shift our focus to more of an attacking style. But, once we have to sub out a fullback or one of MMA even up or ahead, we are a bit stuck with some pretty poor options. We have at least one guy we can swap around without losing much at center back (not much between CCV and Zimmerman, different but close in overall level to me) and none of the strikers are so good you worry about pulling them for another. But, if we want the midfield to keep controlling the game physically and defensively when we tire, we're down to Acosta. He's had good games in qualifying and isn't terrible, but he's far below the quality of MMA, especially on the ball in high intensity games. Throwing Luca on for his first minutes in months in such a situation is a tough move and our other options are more of the roving attacker type. Moore has been pretty poor when Dest has needed rest and Yedlin was no better. I personally feel Scally is a solid option there that we've wasted, but obviously Berhalter isn't as sure. I think midfield depth may be less an issue as we enter the knockout rounds because there's a greater chance of falling behind and wanting to step up the attack with Aaronson (Berhalter's preference) or Reyna (my preference). But, playing a team even or with a lead and just wanting to keep churning, we end up with issues once any of MMA go out and our fullback subs have been shaky.
     
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  15. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #140 thedukeofsoccer, Nov 30, 2022
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2022
    -----------Weah--------------
    ---BA----------------Gio-------
    --------Wes---Musah--------
    ARob----Adams------Dest---
    --------Ream---Zimm---------
    ------------Turner----------------

    *Excludes players w/ serious injury questions. W/ that in mind, who'd be disappointed in this lineup?
     
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  16. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, we are thin at CM.
     
  17. dlokteff

    dlokteff Member+

    Jan 22, 2002
    San Francisco, CA
  18. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    #143 Suyuntuy, Nov 30, 2022
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2022
    I'm going to quote myself, like any bona fide nutcase.

    Back when the Internet was young (early 80s, long before the World Wide Web), the original social media was Usenet. All we have now is nothing but a pale reflection.

    Anyway, Usenet News used the "No News is Good News" transfer protocol, eventually shortened to nntp (no news transfer protocol).

    I don't know why, I just felt like sharing this piece of trivia from a world long gone.

    PS: "Network news transfer protocol" is the modern expansion, to make it sounds more serious.
     
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  19. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Chelsea, Arsenal, Juve ....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    such an important point you are making - the odds are not poor that this game could go well into extra time. We will need great contributions off the bench to have a chance of winning.
     
  20. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

    Jul 2, 2003
    Fornax Cluster
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But it did.
     
  21. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

    Jul 2, 2003
    Fornax Cluster
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We'll be facing Argentina if we beat the Dutch.
     
  22. adam tash

    adam tash BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    problem is, gregg cant let gio succeed now...will make him look too bad for not using him before.

    Greggg is obsessed with getting another cycle so much so that he will not use gio (because he is looking out for himself only)...as much as gregg wants to win, he only wants to win if he can preserve his image while doing so.

    face it, gio will not play in qatar.
     
  23. adam tash

    adam tash BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    why does the US lack a bench?

    the same reason that the manager favors MLS.
     
  24. adam tash

    adam tash BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    just win the game in normal time (is what I want to see)

    im sure greggg is already planning his PK list though
     
  25. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT
    This Saturday, if we're able to play like we did against England or like we did in the first half against Iran; then I really LOVE our chances against Netherlands.
     
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