Post-match: USA v Germany WC tune up

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  1. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    They both are also really slow, the slowest among all our DM and CM candidates. It's questionable whether they can play in Poch system period.
     
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  2. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    I'm not entirely sure it is speed so much as activity level or work rate, but the end result ended up being the same at times.
     
  3. eagercolin

    eagercolin Member+

    Metro
    United States
    Aug 25, 2017
    Buffalo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Halos tend to exist for a reason.
     
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  4. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Could be why Poch switched up the system so Belgium didn't get a look at what we may have to throw at them.

    So who decides how many in a wall?
     
  5. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    I don't care that much about xG. For me the question is whether Pulisic had an opportunity to pass as he should have had. Unforunately answer is: no. I understand how good German defenders were, but still. Balogun is a better player than Pepi, but Pulisc + Pepi might be more dangerous than Pulisic + Balogun. I wish Pepi got on the field at halftime to see him with Pulisic against that defense.
     
  6. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    A keeper.
     
  7. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah I think Turner has been outplaying him in MLS and he should have done better on the first goal. But I think Freese is going to be the guy.
     
  8. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We had like 11 corners to their 2? Something like that? More than a few of those were deflected shots.

    Even outside of xG, a lot of the play was in their end. Especially 1st half after the goal.
     
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  9. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes. In the second half Germany had a free kick from almost the exact same spot and Sane went for goal but it was well over the crossbar so not like a bit of a wall is out of the question. It wasn’t like a shot was out of the question on the goal they scored but probably Freese should have reacted differently once he realized Sane’s run up to the ball was a decoy leaving Kimmich with the cross. I o
     
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  10. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    They also had three players in front of the wall and not in the penalty box in the second half: that was a shot. And yes, after Sane left, right footed player wasn't shooting.
     
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  11. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good point
     
  12. FC_Delco10920

    FC_Delco10920 Member

    AS Roma
    United States
    May 23, 2017
    Can anyone explain to me what I am missing with McKenzie? I see countless posts on this board of people who are clamoring for him to start.

    I will admit that I have watched very little of his play for Club, but I can definitively say I’ve seen enough of him for Country to say that I do not want him on the field in the World Cup.

    About the only thing I can say positive is that he is calm on the ball. I don’t think he’s a particularly good passer and he is careless with possession. He acts so nonchalant as though he is some kind of physically imposing player, but he’s not. He appears to have good strength but he is undersized, and by no means is he fast. I literally hold my breath every time he gets the ball as he is good for at least one terrible giveaway per game.
     
  13. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What were the terrible giveaways McKenzie had in the last 2 matches? How did those compare to the giveaways by our other CBs?
     
  14. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We're picking the least bad option. If Richards is healthy it's him and Ream. Now Ream may live up to everyone who fears him playing but other than the backing up when maybe he should have stepped forward in the first game he's been pretty good. I mean Germany should have skinned him if he's done but he was fine.
     
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  15. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tyler making 10 tackles in the match helped out by Tillman's 4 shielded our CBs from many confrontations.
     
  16. rashaverak1961

    New England Revolution
    United States
    Jul 23, 2017
    im in your camp. Turner is more aggressive, getting off his line instinctively. Freeze froze, for lack of another term.
     
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  17. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    The Havertz goal? I don’t agree with that. He was never getting to that.
     
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  18. Yowza

    Yowza Member+

    DC United
    United States
    Oct 23, 2019
    Arlington
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The team needs to understand how Freese plays. He’s conservative. Unless he’s absolutely certain he’ll get the ball, he stays on his line.
    I do think this is an instance where Turner comes out and makes a play on that service. What we won’t see is Freese coming for a ball and missing, leaving the goal wide open.
    There’s good and bad to both approaches. Ideally, we’d have a keeper who can get it right 95% of the time, but we don’t have that.
    In the meantime, the defense has to assume the keeper isn’t coming unless he yells them off and they need to see the play all the way through.
     
  19. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What Arena, who pointed out that he was a former keeper, was that not was obviously not going to be a shot so Freese should have started three steps past the goal line and then he'd have been able to punch it. Keeping is something I hesitate to judge as I just don't know enough about it.
     
  20. S.J. Jim

    S.J. Jim Member+

    Jun 11, 2006
    S.J.
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I had the same thought immediately after he did it. "Unnecessary" is the key word here. And we don't (and can't) know if it could have contributed in some way to his leg problem later on that day. I mean, go ahead and risk your body AFTER the World Cup, but not a week before. We're not that deep at the postition!
     
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  21. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    I just don’t buy it - that was an excellent cross that would have been really tough for the keeper to intercept. I don’t disagree with Freese not being very good - but I still can’t go back to Turner personally. I’ve seen him fall apart way too many times to trust him again.
     
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  22. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

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    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Why not? It was pretty damn close to the goal line.
     
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  23. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I respectfully disagree. In his last game that he came in as a sub, our midfield was getting beat up. He came in and laid the wood on them. Tess can get physical with no problem. I believe he even played CB a couple of games for club.
     
  24. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    I'm afraid Freese and Turner are kind of a wash - level-wise. While they are very different keeper and have different strengths and weaknesses over a long season they tend to be close to the same level. it will be up to Poch and his staff to game out who is a bit better in the metrics that will be most important in these three games.
     
  25. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    Sure but it came from a tough location with spin - I don’t think had the time or angle to gauge that to intercept. And he didn’t expext Havertz to be all alone. I doubt Turner does any better there.
     
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