Post-match: USA v France

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  1. kingshark

    kingshark Member+

    Mar 3, 2006
    Miazga is the best passer of our CBs, 2nd is EPB.
     
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  2. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

    Aug 17, 2016
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    I don't see what you see in Acosta but I would be willing to give him a run out in the next friendlies. All I can say is that he looked to have improved between the CONCACAF qualifiers and the YNT WC.
    As far as Robinson, I think you are downplaying his play in the championship (where, iirc, he also made some TOWs) and the fact that he could well be a back up for Everton this upcoming ear.
     
  3. ChambersWI

    ChambersWI Member+

    Nov 10, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Decent match against a high quality opponent. The lack of a good target forward and/or a passer at forward held us back.

    Shaq Moore showed potential but IMO needs more seasoning.

    Again a lot to build on.
     
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  4. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’ll be glad to say I was wrong. I expected a blowout. France has work to do if they’re going to win the tournament otherwise this looked like a quarter-finalist/semi-finalist level team.

    That said, this match was an absolute success for us. I’m extremely proud of the kids today... they maintained their focus, and they tried to get in the attack when possible.
     
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  5. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He made Freiburg's Bundesliga squad as a backup ahead of the 2016-2017 season, but returned stateside for homesickness reasons, in his own words. Also didn't help that their starter, Alexander Schwolow, was and is young.
     
  6. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm here for my comeuppance, although for the opposite reason. I predicted a 3-2 victory. I was half kidding, but legit had a good feeling about this one. Had nothing to lose, some talent, reason to be motivated because of the opponent, know how to play that tactic, and had a history of fight. It was good to return that identity.
     
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  7. Lookingforleftbacks

    Galaxy
    United States
    Dec 17, 2016
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I understand when to pass and when to clear. I played center back. Go back and watch and you’ll see how often he had 3-5 teammates around him and he cleared the ball out of bounds. He wasn’t just trying to clear the pressure, he just wasn’t even trying to pass to his teammates most of the time.

    And he didn’t clear that ball on the last save by Steffen. It just rolled passed the goal.
     
  8. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Holy shit!


    We tied France?!?
     
  9. kingshark

    kingshark Member+

    Mar 3, 2006
    I thought this is the best result we can get to play France on their home. Solid defensive performance even though no offense at all. I think we have attacking talents just need a good new coach to figure it out and build a system. Wingers and forwards need to be discovered and fill into our formation. Pulisic can make difference, but we need one or two more creative attacking weapons here.

    Thanks Sarachan for left quite a few players scouting data that can be refered to in the future. Hopefully we can hire a capable coach to lead our future.
     
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  10. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For all the malignant stuff he gets here, Dave Sarachan has done all you can ask of from a caretaker coach.

    These kids believe again. That's a pretty darn good foundation for the next guy...whoever Earnie hires...to build on.

    Thanks, Dave.
     
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  11. Beastmode21

    Beastmode21 Member+

    United States
    Jan 19, 2009
    Seattle, WA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Extremely proud of the team. We should all be very encouraged...
     
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  12. laxcoach

    laxcoach Member+

    United States
    Jul 29, 2017
    intermountain west
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How I saw it but I still like Moore's upside and love how Trapp reads the game and moves but am not sure he's got the athleticism for top level international play. And I'd still take today's starting lineup, with Pulisic and Parks somehow exchanged in, over anything I saw in the Hex. Sargent for Wood, Parks for Trapp and Pulisic for Green would be my hope as of today.

    I like what I saw today. Now get a real coach. One with some imagination and no ties to any league on the globe. Find the right players who fit and play together with passion.

    Greizmann, if he was playing in the WC or Europa league games would probably have meant 3-1 or worse but I don't care. All I wanted to see was if any of the young guns were ready to step up and several are. Hard to see the USMNT not getting healthy down the road soon as long as Earnie doesn't screw it up with his hire.[/QUOTE]
     
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  13. Tmagic77

    Tmagic77 Member+

    Feb 10, 2003
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    The back kept their shape well, defended well, cut out a lot of passes, and made good tackles. I wasn't really expecting that, even with 5. Adams provided good cover.

    Wood... ugh. We really need Sargent, Novakovich, and several others to work out.
     
  14. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Concur with the sentiment that Sarachan gets too much flack with those pre-determined to hate him. You can't hold him to the standard of permanent head coach. That's not what he is. He came in to bridge a gap and provide us some info for the next manager. He did that decently well, and deserves some appreciation for that.

    It's just on to the next chapter. <1% chance he gets the job long-term. An MLS club could do worse than him. That's something he could have gained out of this selfishly by executing the objective well enough. Maybe he could do the same for them.
     
  15. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    I believe you've said you don't watch MLS. I am really getting very tired of saying this and maybe its my own fault that I invite this argument, but he's improved. Its very clear, and I think a lot of opinions about him are tainted by a level of play that doesn't properly represent what he brings right now. Go read my comments from his play with the US U-20's. I wasn't disagreeing 1.5 years ago, but with younger players, some will improve, others will regress, others will stagnate.

    I like Robinson. I just think he's slightly naive defensively, and therefore behind Acosta. He was showing it against Bolivia, not just a top team like France. I like what he brings, and I think he had a good season. He's a much better option than the Beasley's, Garza's, Castillo's, etc. I'm not slighting him.
     
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  16. kingshark

    kingshark Member+

    Mar 3, 2006
    I think Nagbe is still useful for our team, don't forget.
     
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  17. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nagbe has 0 goals and 1 primary assist in over 1,300 minutes for an Atlanta team that's averaging over 2 goals per game.

    I'll politely disagree with you about his usefulness.
     
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  18. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Steffen's game is reminiscent of Howard. I can't be the only person who sees the similarities.

    Its nice that one is emerging as the other is about to retire.
     
  19. Lookingforleftbacks

    Galaxy
    United States
    Dec 17, 2016
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You and I have disagreed about him pretty much every time we’ve ever seen him play. I’ve seen him a couple times with his club and he looked good, and I said I’d be fine with him getting a chance with the senior team.

    But yes, I have my doubts about how good he would be with the NT
     
  20. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does Nagbe have either a goal or an assist for Atlanta this season?
     
  21. kingshark

    kingshark Member+

    Mar 3, 2006
    So why Tata want him and always put. him on starting lineup? Better coach than him?
     
  22. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I totally agree with you. I will go on record that he will have to up his game to still be our #1 RB in 4 years time. He has not been convincing to me over the last year.
     
  23. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Because the alternatives are worse. Just because someone plays doesn't mean they're useful for a national team.

    Nagbe is complete shit in the final third. He can't shoot, his decision-making sucks, and his passes always miss. He has done ********-all every time he has appeared for the national team, and advocating for his inclusion shows that you are clueless about the type of player who can contribute to the national team going forward.

    ******** me for trying to be nice.
     
  24. kingshark

    kingshark Member+

    Mar 3, 2006
    OK, that is why average coach and good coach thought things different, not just statistics. If team buiding is all about choose a bunch of players with most goal/ assist stats, then they don't need a foreign. coach like Tata
     
  25. Papin

    Papin BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 19, 1998
    le côté obscur
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So Nagbe is only useful if he's scoring or getting assists? :rolleyes:
     

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