USA goalkeeper discussion thread - Episode IV: A New Hope

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by OWN(yewu)ED, Jul 9, 2023.

  1. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Member+

    Apr 10, 2002
    California - Bay Area
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    Eric Wynalda and Alexi Lalas?
     
  2. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    why? Landon is a super-interesting person and Howard was amazing. Both among greatest ever in our country. No other podcast has 2 legends like this.
     
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  3. xbhaskarx

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    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    What a funny time to ask that, I wrote it two and a half weeks ago... this is from two days ago:
    Also just because both are among the greatest ever in our country as athletes doesn't mean they're not also morons... those things are not mutually exclusive
     
  4. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    I get your point on this subject but he has expanded on what he means. It is quite rationale or at least way more rational than the short clip about MLS
     
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  5. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    Landon is far far from a moron. I actually had a slight relationship with Landon and he was and is a very bright guy. Very thoughtful. Not a typical jock.
     
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  6. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
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    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    What about "Gio Reyna in MLS would play 300 games by now." is rational? Does MLS have magical injury healing powers that Dortmund doesn't?

    Edit: If you say so... he doesn't really show it.
     
  7. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    He might well be correct . Playing regularly definitely provides some protection against injuries. We can't know. You may not agree but it's not crazy.
     
  8. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
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    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    So Gio's injury issues are from... not playing enough? It's not that Gio hasn't played more because he's frequently injured?
     
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  9. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    it went/goes in both directions. The fact that he is playing very few minutes means he lacks the physical resilience that comes with more playing time.
     
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  10. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
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    Manchester United FC
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    United States
    Sure but that’s not why the initial hamstring injury occurred.
     
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  11. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

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    NorCal
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    United States
    Or the injury vs Canada in the Nations League final when he got tackled right before halftime... we don't have to speculate because we actually saw it
     
  12. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    I talked to him a couple times and fully agree. He was also the guy who managed to get that 2005-2009 CBA, which happened to be the most important MLS step forward, signed.
     
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  13. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    We have zero idea why any non-contact injury occurred!
     
  14. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
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    United States
    I just meant he was playing regularly for Dortmund at that point (and the US) so it wasn’t because of lack of playing time.
     
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  15. xbhaskarx

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  16. xbhaskarx

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  17. xbhaskarx

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    San Jose Earthquakes
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  18. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    We're expecting Turner to start for Crystal Palace against Arsenal today - a good test, and with a bonus for winning/advancing - a two-match semifinal in January/February 2025.
     
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  19. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
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    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    Goalkeeper update

    Matt Turner with a Reyna-level disaster Premier League loan that gets talked about 1/1000 as much



    Drake Callendar may lose his starting job

     
  20. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    #2070 butters59, Dec 18, 2024
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    He had two even better saves, one of them required absolutely phenomenal reflexes. Hard to tell how complete his game is, but if people like athletic Brady, this kid is at least as good or better athletically and with good feet.
     
  21. nobody

    nobody Member+

    Jun 20, 2000


    Pretty interesting discussion about the goalkeeping issue here. It really highlights just how thin our options are.
     
  22. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If we had to call in three GKs for a low stakes friendly tomorrow, I would probably go

    1. Turner
    2. Freese
    3. Kochen

    and two of those three haven't played a single minute for the USMNT before lol
     
  23. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
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    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
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    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wonder why Celentano doesn’t get more of a mention?

    Based on my evaluation, I would say that he’s consistently put up reliable performances over an extended enough period of time. He’s young. He might not necessarily be the second coming of Tim Howard. But he doesn’t seem to crap his pants (at least as much) like our other keeper options.
     
  24. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    He is a good reliable keeper, but his ceiling isn't that high. For some reason such guys don't get enough hype. Stefan Frei has arguably being in top 3 American keepers forever and still is the second best, never got a single call.
     
  25. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Frei I think was hurt by not getting his US citizenship till later in the 2018 cycle and Berhalter wanting to move on to the next generation of goalies by the time he took over.
     

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