USA goalkeeper discussion thread - Episode IV: A New Hope

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by OWN(yewu)ED, Jul 9, 2023.

  1. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Everything Clint Eastwood said is correct. My anger and frustration knows no bounds. We should have been giving opportunities to academy kids a few weeks ago at least.
     
  2. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Haven't seen the whole game, but don't think he is at fault for the goals.
     
  3. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not that I'm giving up on the guy but we have like a dozen U-23 goalkeepers and the World Cup is only a year and a half away... not sure how Slonina makes the roster from the third division when MLS is the same level as the second division.
     
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  4. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    Might have been riding my Gaga hype train a little too securely the past two years. :(
     
  5. Yowza

    Yowza Member+

    DC United
    United States
    Oct 23, 2019
    Arlington
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He doesn’t seem to have a handle on when to come out and when to stay. And if he does come out, clear the ball and everything in between!
    This is the complaint of Barnsley fans: he doesn’t understand how to play the position properly yet.
     
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  6. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Still good potential, just a later developing position and good he’s getting the opportunity to play and learn and get better.
     
  7. largegarlic

    largegarlic Member+

    Jul 2, 2007
    In a way, I think if a young keeper is going to have problems, "not knowing how to play the position properly" is a good one to have. If he has the basic shot-stopping and athletic abilities, he should in theory get better at his decision making with more reps.

    The thing that is starting to concern me with Slonina is that even though he's young, he has had a good number of first team starts for such a young age--33 in MLS, 34 in Belgium, and 14 so far with Barnsley in League 1 or Cup games. And he's apparently not improving much despite going down in league quality.
     
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  8. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    I agree I was just hopeful he could clean up his game enough to be viable by '25, and viable for camps by late '24, but it doesn't look like it. I imagine we are going to white knuckle things with Turner and Schulte and pray they bring in Freese to see if his numbers are sticky in the international game.
     
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  9. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Luccin was coaching for a full time job. The Hunts are talking about his 1.5 ppg now. Maybe other coaches were also in that tough spot. I also wanted Carrera to get that but Maurer is likely retiring and going to a FO position. I get why he was the starter. Just business and understanding the owners.
     
  10. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Are we still going to have a Camp Cupcake?
     
  11. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    We haven't heard at all.

    I'd say that if Poch (and his GK coach) wants to learn the domestic pool, then that's the best way to do it.

    He's not going to be calling up those types of players in the November window. At least I don't think he will.

    I personally am in favor of skewing young at January camp.
    And I wouldn't call in the keepers that he's already worked with. So I wouldn't call in Schulte and Steffen. If we do that camp, he needs to use it to expand the net.

    Maybe two mid-career guys and two youngsters. Something like Freese, Celentano, Brady, and Beavers.
     
  12. Mantis Toboggan M.D.

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jul 8, 2017
    Agree except I'd call in Schulte. Steffen, probably not.
     
  13. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    I'm usually against Camp Cupcake.

    This would be a good year for one.
     
  14. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    Bravos got smoked this week, but looking at FBREF advanced gk stats and they have Benny Diaz as the #7 starting keeper in the LigaMX Apertura.
     
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  15. Mantis Toboggan M.D.

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jul 8, 2017
    Think you absolutely need one this year.
     
  16. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nothing has been announced but it was Klinsmann who said he wanted to cancel but couldn’t because they needed to fulfill the TV dates. Which I assume is still the case.
     
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  17. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    Yep, if there's someone I imagine had no idea what's happening in MLS it would be Poch.

    I would use the camp to evaluate:
    *The best no longer Prospects (the Ferreira's, Morris and Arriola's of the world)
    *I'd call in the best young prospects age 17-22 period.
    *I'd call in the pile of interesting goalkeepers: Beavers, Brady, Schulte, Celentano, Callendar.

    Not sure, but to me, it would be most valuable for him to find out:
    *What vets actually have utility (the Arriola, Ferreira, Morris, Walker Zim type guys)

    *What youngsters are actually on the cusp of having utility/going to move....guys like Luna, guys like a Guti on a bounce back under Berhalter (he does play the position that usually garners production in his typically neutered attack) etc

    *sort through what goalie prospects are interesting to make up the #'s/compete with Turner.
     
  18. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe; old man, Guzan should be our #1 keeper. He is keeping Atlanta in this game on his own.
     
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  19. nbarbour

    nbarbour Member+

    Jun 19, 2006
    Washington DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Came here to post this.
     
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  20. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    old man Guzan not looking like a geriatric arthritic polar bear tonight... he's got like 4-5 great saves

    [​IMG]
     
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  21. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Guzan > Turner
     
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  22. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  23. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    My rationale in boosting Guzan has been simple. Odds are you won't need him. So leadership and things like press relations are valued.

    If you are down to playing a third keeper , then the difference in quality is less important than not choking because the stage is too big. Guzan has big stage experience for club and country.

    If you go with Guzan at #3, then you know Turner is 1 keeper, &then it's just settling on the other from a few candidates. It simplifies things and saves time for other positions.
     
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  24. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    So Slonina's been benched.
     
  25. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    So I jumped off the train 72 hours before it went off the bridge and into the canyon waters below lol.
     

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