US women soccer players want equal pay to US men's team.

yes.....she left because she said her religion would not allow her to support gay pride...she is a homophobe

she hasn't been invited back because she is a homophobe and how dumb would you be to invite an openly homophobic player into a team with a number of gay players.

 

she admitted it in the video there is nothing to debate I posted the video yesterday.

 

People are free to be homophobes, so long as they come to work and don’t harass their gay co-workers.

I have a big problem with employers forcing employees to engage in expressive First Amendment conduct, then blackballing those who refuse. As a society, we’ve let our employers dictate more and more of behavior that’s unrelated to our actual job.

 

Concacaf celebrates success of the 2019 @GoldCup 🏆

The biggest-ever edition of the tournament, was a success across many fronts.

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— Concacaf (@Concacaf) July 15, 2019

Oh hey, there’s the money the women want.

 

nope you have it all wrong

they are not free to be racist/homophobic or anything else offensive outside of work and this especially goes for athletes who contracts include conduct clauses.

they didn't blackball her she walked away under her own free will. She is a homophobe though and with openly gay players on the team she isn't good enough for them to overlook it.

racism etc should never be tolerated and you can't trust someone who has one of these issues.

 

Yes, it’s true that most American states allow people to be fired for their conduct and opinions outside of work. In most states, you can still legally be fired for being gay, for example. And only a relatively small percentage of Americans are subject to collective bargaining agreements that give them recourse if they’re arbitrarily fired by their employer. Most of us are at the mercy of our employers if they don’t like our non-work related activities or opinions.

You seem to be okay with this, it seems. You’re in good company with noted anti-Semite Henry Ford, who used to send Pinkertons out to spy on his employees to make sure they weren’t engaging in immorality.

I wonder what your position would be if a soccer player had been blackballed from a team for refusing to wear a MAGA hat as part of a team event?

 

Gone are the days of “live and let live.” Apparently, a homophobe is now someone who doesn’t wear the rainbow and actively celebrate Gay Pride Month.

You make the assertion repeatedly that Hinkle is toxic on a team with gay players, yet there’s absolutely no evidence to support that. On the contrary, she’s had no issues in 4+ years with gay teammates on the North Carolina Courage.

 

its simple you can't be randomly fired without cause

hinkle wasn't fired...she quit because she believes some figure that doesn't exists wants her to stand against rights for some americans.

so you seem to be confusing the issue

promoting racism bad....equality good

its simple

 

no a homophobe is someone that she is against equality and hides behind a fiction book to justify it.

no evidence she was toxic?

oh wait a player came out today and said she was...I mean atleast make it tough on me.

 

What do you mean. Ashlyn Harris just told us she was toxic. What more evidence do you need?

 

Well,

July 16th is in about an hour and this thread is right on schedule.

 

Actually, you can. You can be fired for almost any reason or no reason at all, other than for a few narrow exceptions.

Most places In the US, your employer can fire you if he doesn’t like your politics, such as if you say something negative about the President, or if you make a pro-Pride statement on your Facebook wall.

 

Sorry to jump in here like this...

I agree with you. Religion is not a magic shield you get to hide behind that absolves you of all your wrong doing in society. It is not a cudgel that you can beat people with with no repercussions. When you say stupid things in public, you do not simply get to wash it away with your religion.

 

This was not "Live and let live". If it was that she would have stayed quiet or used any other excuse that wouldn't ruffle any feathers.

My friends and I have a definition of what we feel political correctness means. Don't be a dick. She was being a dick. While not toxic, she was certainly not helpful to moving the team forward. She was coming out publicly against what her coach and some of her teammates are.

 

you are really pushing hard to be my fav poster here poor gunner might be down to #2

let me ask a simple question

if you were watching the news and saw a coworker yelling racial and homophobic slurs at a few kids walking to school

would you:
A)think 'good dude glad to work with him on a daily basis he works hard)
b)think 'I don't need or want that dude at my workplace'

here is the other option

you are about to close a deal with a company that is going to supply you french fries and you turn on the news and see the sales person you were working with in his company shirt yelling racial and homophobic slurs at a few kids walking to school

the next day you show up at work and a reporter and tv camera are there and they want to ask you about that sales person and his company you do business with

would you:
a)say 'I am tolerant of all views I think his views are just fine its america and being racist/homophobic is fine as long as he didn't do it during work hours at his desk'
b)were done with them

 

also what behavior do you think is being dictated and what do you want to do that you can't?

 

I think they are looking for an opinion from someone who isn't gay because well the opinions of people who are gay, how do I put this....aren't valued the same by everyone.

 

Actually, you can say all manner of stupid thing publicly and it doesn't matter what justification you use.

Check out this incredible stupidity:

"Every single case of inherited defect, every malformed child, every congenitally tainted human being brought into this world is of infinite importance to that poor individual; but it is of scarcely less importance to the rest of us and to all of our children who must pay in one way or another for these biological and racial mistakes."

- Margaret Sanger, The Pivot of Civilization, 1922


This incredibly stupid woman (I'd change that from "stupid" to "evil"), filled will all sorts of white supremacist hatred manifest into actual public policy, is the founding mother of Planned Parenthood, which obviously still exists today. Planned Parenthood was instituted to do the job the eugenicists wanted, which was to remove the "bothersome" minorities and disabled people that the socialist elitists didn't like to have to pay for. They were building a socialist Eutopia (get it...Eugenics + Utopia? So cheeky!), see, and were trying to figure out how to pay for everything. So their choice? Wine and cheese > minorities and disabled people. Disgusting.


What happened to Sanger? She became a figurehead for the womens rights movements and an icon for people like Hillary Clinton.

So...you can say all manner of stupidity and become an icon, I guess...it just depends on which side of the political aisle you fall on?

 

False dichotomy: at nearly any company with any policies whatsoever, you direct all media inquiries to the appropriate company department and walk away.

 

You already have a yellow card. Please stop willfully misrepresenting people.

 

I would bet there are at least some players on the team who kept their mouths shut and just wore the shirt, knowing full well that the alternative was banishment and loss of money.

Again, there were 11 million less viewers for the 2019 final vs 2015. Politics play a role?

 

It did for me.

If I want to subject myself to the tumultuous rancor and cacophony of self-important cause-warriors, I'll just comb through twitter looking for those modern Che Guevara-meets-Tipper Gore types to nag us to death about how they think we should all be living our lives.

The US womens team didn't see a minute on my TV. I did catch some of the dutch and nigerian womens teams though, briefly.

National Teams are about ALL of us, and it violates a kind of sacred bond to use the platform for selfish political reasons. Megan Rapinoe is not oppressed...she just doesn't like certain people and wants to use her platform to aggrandize herself at their expense. It sounds like the Christian girl gracefully bowed out. She's the one with tact. The drama queens Harris and Rapinoe are so insecure that they can't find the integrity to manifest tact. It makes them look petty and small.

 

my fault I said 'say' on the second situation but the first I clearly said 'think'...not asking what you'd say but what you'd think.

 

I would think, "I don't care what Bob in accounting does outside of work. That's not any of my business."

I would say "No comment" because my employer doesn't authorize me to talk to the media, and I would refer them to my company's PR person. In general, it's never a good idea to talk to the media about work-related stuff.

 

strange

you say its put you off from the sport...but you are commenting...be honest you watched

I mean what do you watch now I'd love to know what you watch that doesn't involve politics or political opinion.