US women soccer players want equal pay to US men's team.

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  1. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Since the USWNT and USMNT seem to be lockstep with this whole equal pay issue, I have a great idea. Why are they even negotiating deals separately ? Shouldn't they just negotiate it together ? That'd be a fantastic idea.
     
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  2. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    The two PAs are separate legal entities.

    And I'm still convinced that the USMNTPA is "in lockstep" insofar as this remains a vaguely-defined ideal. Their idea of equal may differ substantially, but they aren't yet compelled to offer what that is and can "offer support" risk-free and ride that perceptual wave until things get interesting. It's a no-lose for the USMNTPA, and seeing as they have their own issues with USSF (and an expired CBA), they can send a much needed message about that as well.
     
  3. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Being separate can be easily solved in many ways .
     
  4. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Maybe. Do you have special insight into that?
     
  5. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Just negotiate together as separate entities or merge them. I don't see the difficulty in it. Except wait, they have different necessities ... *cough* NWSL *cough* ... :whistling:
     
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  6. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Ah, I thought you had a legally-legitimate idea.

    I'm going to venture that it's not nearly that simple.
     
  7. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    A little hard work but worth it in the name of equality :D
     
  8. HouseofCards

    HouseofCards Member

    Nov 26, 2012
    Asking Gianni what is being done about it, is directly asking about increasing the purse for the WWC. She specifically said, double it and double it again, and then we are having a conversation.

    That is entirely different then saying, "Pool the money the USMNT makes from a WC and the USWNT makes from a WWC and divide amongst both."

    You can argue she is inferring it, and I could argue she's not, and neither of us know for sure. That is my whole point with all this. What the hell is equal in the eyes of the USWNT?
     
  9. a_new_fan

    a_new_fan Member+

    Jul 6, 2006
    the womens team after the last world cup in 15 talked about pooling and that the men should offer to share the money with the women....its called google.
     
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  10. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think this case if it goes to trial will have significant ramification.

    Take for instance the issue with male models, they get paid a fraction of female models. Why? because female models generate greater revenue.
     
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  11. PassionOfTheFoot

    Feb 12, 2002
    Incheon, South Korea
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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  12. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Santa Cruz, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mer... MAN!
     
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  13. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ad ventura ad facilis
     
  14. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How do The Zoolanders' Rage?
     
  15. Mr Mxyzptlk

    Mr Mxyzptlk Member

    Atlanta United
    Jun 19, 2014
    Club:
    Goias Goiania
    I don't want the women's team paid more; I want the men's team paid less. :p
     
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  16. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Santa Cruz, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I want the Men's team to start refusing callups until Beerholder is fired.
     
  17. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
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  18. billf

    billf Member+

    May 22, 2001
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm having a hard time figuring out what the aim is? I'm guessing its guaranteed money and benefits for the NT, juiced bonuses, plus" market" national team pay?
     
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  19. MinuteWaltZ

    MinuteWaltZ Member

    Indy Eleven
    United States
    Apr 19, 2019
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  20. Potowmack

    Potowmack Member+

    Apr 2, 2010
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, the women's team has spent years denigrating the men's side, and part of their PR strategy in this fight has been to imply that the USMNT deserves to be paid less than the women.

    Sorry, no, they don't get to demand support now.
     
  21. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Also, didn't the players' union issue a pretty decent statement of solidarity not so long ago?

    This shit is getting pretty stupid now.
     
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  22. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Just short of ..... if you don't speak up in our support, you're our enemy.
     
  23. MinuteWaltZ

    MinuteWaltZ Member

    Indy Eleven
    United States
    Apr 19, 2019
    I cross linked this with the thread in the USWNT N&A board. I'll say what I said there:

    It's hypocritical of the players quoted and a bad look from a PR standpoint for the USWNT. I just don't know if that matters given how dug in everyone is at this point.
     
  24. Potowmack

    Potowmack Member+

    Apr 2, 2010
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's becoming like high school. The popular, mean girls are demanding attention.
     
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  25. MinuteWaltZ

    MinuteWaltZ Member

    Indy Eleven
    United States
    Apr 19, 2019
    I don't know that it is short of that.
     
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