Pre-match: US v Turkey, June 7 2025 (Friendly)

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  1. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I just don’t think he has the athletic profile required.

    There is an argument that having a guy who can hit a free kick is useful late in games if you need a goal but I rate the other guys higher.
     
  2. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    Any time given to Pulisic or Weston from hrre until the World Cup is spilled water. We have to give all meaningful minutes to Guti and Luna and Pax and maybe the 50 million man.
     
  3. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    https://www.foxsports.com/stories/s...r-christian-pulisic-wont-play-gold-cup-summer

    According to the link to Fox Sports, above:
     
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  4. Reccossu

    Reccossu Member+

    Jan 31, 2005
    Birmingham
    Not gonna make the quarters with the second team. Or gonna make the quarters with the first team playing like it has. Limited options, but Poch seems to hope that either prioritizing support for best case 25/26 club situations is better for the Nats than working together or that so long as the A team is absent, no one knows for sure the emperor is naked.

    Or maybe CP begged off over Poch’s objection.
     
  5. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    #280 Clint Eastwood, May 22, 2025
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    Not really surprised by the Pulisic news.
    Hell, we spoke on this thread about the likelihood of some of our overworked Euro-based players wanting to take the summer off. I won't be surprised if Dest isn't picked either due to Poch's comments earlier this week in the press.

    Even with missing some games due to minor injuries, how many minutes has Pulisic played for club and country during the 2024/2025 season? 4000? It must be close.

    I remember reading somewhere that at 26 years old Christian Pulisic has already played more career minutes than many of the stalwarts of previous USMNT generations. Compare total career minutes played for club and country for Christian Pulisic and Claudio Reyna. Pretty similar.

    Does not having Pulisic, McKennie, Weah, etc. make winning the event less likely?
    Yes. Of course it does. We need our depth to step up. We need guys like Tillman and Johnny to step into roles. Gives a chance for a young player to get a roster spot.

    Maybe without Pulisic, this is the breakout event for Tillman..................................

    Or maybe some like Luna or Gutierrez really steps up in a big way.

    [As an aside, the USSF has treated the Gold Cup like a side show for most of Pulisic's career. Not just Pulisic, but this entire new generation. One wonders how these new stars view the tournament. Are they as passionate to play in it as a previous generation. The Nations League has been billed as their star event, with the Gold Cup as the "B" team event. If I was to ask people how many Gold Cups they think Pulisic has played in during his USMNT career, would they get it right? How many goals has Pulisic scored at the Gold Cup? I bet most would overestimate that tally. I can tell you he only has ever scored against Caribbean nations at the Gold Cup.]
     
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  6. Bob Morocco

    Bob Morocco Member+

    Aug 11, 2003
    Billings, MT
    Puli the Pirate

    I believe if you compare Clint’s 2014 cycle to Pulisic’s 2026 you will find pretty similar minute totals.
     
  7. keller4president

    Jan 5, 2006
    is this a guess or sourced?
     
  8. NYdog

    NYdog Member

    United States
    Nov 6, 2024
    United States
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    Our selection for matches in the United States
     
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  9. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Complete guess. I am the last person who has any real sources.
     
  10. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    McKennie is not really on him given the Club World Cup.

    Pulisic and Jedi are the two players I’m ok taking the summer off given the amount of minutes they’ve played the last couple seasons and how indispensable they are. But everyone else I think doesn’t really get the same consideration and I’d have brought both to the camp for the friendlies.
     
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  11. keller4president

    Jan 5, 2006
    Cardoso started 37 games across all competitions this year, with 3,300 minutes played. Pulisic has 3500 minutes played. Robinson also had 3300 minutes played this year. So I'd be willing to give Cardoso and Robinson breaks as well.
     
  12. keller4president

    Jan 5, 2006
    By comparison, Adams played 2200 minutes this season, given his injuries. Sargent played 2500 minutes. Chris Richards - 2500 minutes. Scally - 2700 minutes. Zendejas - 3200 minutes. Paxten - 3100 minutes. Haji - 2200 minutes. McKenzie - 2700 minutes.

    Brendan played 3600 minutes this season, most of any player, but he's fighting for a USMNT roster spot. And he's the energizer bunny. ;)
     
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  13. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  14. Demo250

    Demo250 Member

    Mar 26, 2025
    What is this roster choice……..
     
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  15. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    GOALKEEPERS (4): Matt Freese (New York City FC; 0/0), Patrick Schulte (Columbus Crew; 3/0), Zack Steffen (Colorado Rapids; 30/0), Matt Turner (Crystal Palace/ENG; 51/0)

    DEFENDERS (8): Max Arfsten (Columbus Crew; 3/0), Sergiño Dest (PSV Eindhoven/NED; 33/2), Alex Freeman (Orlando City; 0/0), DeJuan Jones (San Jose Earthquakes; 10/0), Mark McKenzie (Toulouse/FRA; 19/0), Tim Ream (Charlotte FC; 68/1), Chris Richards (Crystal Palace/ENG; 24/1), Miles Robinson (FC Cincinnati; 32/3),

    MIDFIELDERS (10): Brenden Aaronson (Leeds United/ENG; 47/8); Tyler Adams (Bournemouth/ENG; 44/2), Sebastian Berhalter (Vancouver Whitecaps/CAN; 0/0), Johnny Cardoso (Real Betis/ESP; 18/0), Luca de la Torre (San Diego FC; 24/1), Diego Luna (Real Salt Lake; 4/0), Jack McGlynn (Houston Dynamo; 4/1), Quinn Sullivan (Philadelphia Union; 0/0); Malik Tillman (PSV Eindhoven/NED; 17/0), Sean Zawadzki (Columbus Crew; 1/0)

    FORWARDS (5): Patrick Agyemang (Charlotte FC; 4/3), Folarin Balogun (Monaco/FRA; 17/5); Damion Downs (FC Köln/GER; 0/0), Brian White (Vancouver Whitecaps/CAN; 4/1), Haji Wright (Coventry City/ENG; 15/4)
     
  16. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hard to know who was a snub and who got the summer off but surprises are no Scally, Sargent, and Tessmann.

    Not at all surprised Jedi is missing, and guys I would have liked to see who aren’t there are Tolkin, Blackmon, Paxton Aaronson, and Gutierrez. And Wiley given Jedi isn’t there.

    27 players so only player dropped will be one of the goalies.
     
  17. metnostar

    metnostar Member

    Jun 28, 2001
    Our depth has gotten so much better, so that it’s possible to imagine some competitive 11’s from this bunch. Still, it’s disappointing not to see young prospects like Tolkin, Tessman and Paxton Aaronson if we are just trying to judge our second level talent.
     
  18. keller4president

    Jan 5, 2006
    Interesting picks by Poch:

    Arfsten instead of Wiley and Tolkin

    DeJuan Jones over Fossey and Bryan Reynolds (not on 60 man roster)

    Robinson and Ream over Max Dietz, Noakhai Banks (younger option not on 60 man roster) and Miazga (not on 60 man roster)

    Seb Berhalter over Paxten?!?

    Zawadski over Aidan Morris and Tessman and Lenard Maloney (not on 60 man roster)?

    McGlynn/Sullivan/de la Torre over Busio?

    No Zendejas?

    Really though Matko Miljevic would make the roster too, but didn't.
     
  19. keller4president

    Jan 5, 2006
    Who is the back-up defensive mid after Adams? Is Zawadzki any good?
     
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  20. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  21. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Wow. Interesting. Maybe with the absences, he just decided to go pretty "B" team after all.

    I like it. We're unlikely to win the event, but I like it.
    So we think of it as an "expanding the net" event as opposed to a "preparing for the World Cup" event.
    That's fine.
     
  22. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    People did want fresh eyes on the player pool post Berhalter.
     
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  23. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Musah was a personal decision, Sargent was a coach’s decision

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  24. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    I'm totally down with that decision on Sargent.
    Regardless of how much we like him, he hasn't gotten the job done under Poch.
    So look at some other guys this event. It doesn't mean Sargent is excommunicated.

    [It is worth noting that nothing in the announcement says this is definitely the group that will make up the Gold Cup roster.]
     
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  25. kickin365

    kickin365 Member+

    Mar 4, 2002
    Tessman just had a kid last month I believe so maybe he’s out for family time.
     

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