US Soccer Hall of Fame

So the National US Soccer Hall Of Fame will have FC Dallas logos plastered all over it?

Great idea US Soccer.

 

he who pays can do as they wish...

 

Kenn has it.

http://www.kenn.com/the_blog/?page_id=4431

I thought I did, but Kenn's more reliable. I'm working on getting the 2016 vote totals, but it don't come easy.

 

I love this.

The Hall of Fame has spent the last several years in boxes in North Carolina, none of you lot have lifted a finger or spent a penny in pursuit of getting it out of those boxes, and now you bitch about artist's conceptions.

The least they could do. Jesus, we'll bitch about absolutely anything in this culture.

How about a big Whataburger logo on there? Would that be better?

 

Ah! found it. The mythical “appropriate thread”. In which I s—tpost MLS General style a proposition to get the absurdly long HoF backlog cleared.

So recently a certain blogger decided to visit a windmill at which he vigorously tilted, specifically regarding the paucity of non-whites and non-men and for that matter non-u.s.-nats in the HoF. It’s too late to comment on his blog post and hope anyone will see it, so here my defeasible diatribe shall have to go.

Now, my theory on this might be overly charitable, but it occurs to me that perhaps the voters generally agree on who should go into the hall, they just can’t agree on what order, effectively turning the tap to a tortuous trickle. Ooooor, the USMNT might be grossly overrepresented, and at this point simply doling out to all their friends like a FIFA confederation meeting that’s finally down to the Boone’s Farm.

What to do? Well I think you have to break the cycle, as the kids are saying. Two main components should suffice, I think:

• A one-off (or maybe two-off) ballot is required for the women, and the voting pool is going to have to be restricted to female members and the vast throng of press who have covered the women’s leagues down the years. I think Dan Loney suggested something like this in his post.
• After that ballot, USSF could establish a set of criteria for MLS and NWSL players which would automatically qualify a player for induction if they are met, and would apply retroactively. This is what I came up with tentatively:

1. MVP more than once
2. MVP once and three-time First XI selection
3. Four-time First XI selection

If my reckoning is correct (a pretty big if), this would result in the below players’ induction with immediate effect and without the need for a vote:

Chris Armas
Jimmy Conrad
Dwayne De Rosario
Landon Donovan
Marco Etcheverry
Robin Fraser
Christian Gomez
Shalrie Joseph
Jaime Moreno
Carlos Valderrama

And upon their retirements the following:

Omar Gonzalez
Robbie Keane
Chris Wondolowski

I don’t believe any women have met these benchmarks yet, although it looks as if Becky Sauerbrunn is likely to after this season.

What impediments would there be to this approach? Is this unreasonable?

 

Might as well do this while I'm here since I kind of thread jacked you earlier. It really doesn't feel right that the HoF is housed in a partisan stadium to me either, but until it can stand on its own... Bottom line it needs to be somewhere where soccer fans are found, and apparently soccer fans can do just about anything faster than they can find Oneonta on a map. Further, it seems clear to me a host MLS team would want it on site on the theory that it would drive more traffic at their stadium and by extension more concession/merch revenue. Suboptimal but necessary if the hall is to have a function at all. It seems to me as MLS fans we should be numb to suboptimal-but-necessary by now but it hasn't happened yet.

 

I'd rather politely decline this particular chance...lol

 

I'm mostly OK with having the HOF at the FC Dallas Stadium. Not my favorite place in the world but I get the financial situation. I was just up there last week for the Houston game and I was thinking that it will be nice to eventually go see the HOF in conjunction with a game. But this is too much FC Dallas on the entrance. Put some non-denominational soccer image on that tower in the middle and I would have much, much less of a problem. They have FCD logos all over Toyota Stadium, why do they have to make this entrance look like the FC Dallas Hall of Fame?

 

http://www.frontrowsoccer.com/2017/...occer-hall-fame-expected-completed-late-2018/

A HALL OF A PROJECT:
National Soccer Hall of Fame expected to be completed by late 2018
May 24, 2017

 

I'm not going to judge this on architectural value but I think this looks much more like the National Soccer Hall of Fame than the prior plan.

 

http://www.frontrowsoccer.com/2017/05/25/charge-buchholz-named-hall-fame-executive-director/

IN CHARGE:
Buchholz named Hall of Fame executive director
May 25, 2017

 

Check out @BrianStraus's Tweet:

NSHOF vote results. https://t.co/GqcaoDBhoe 2/3 of voters say no Moreno, best player of MLS's 1st decade. If you're among them, tell me why pic.twitter.com/Z4Ad3tPvfK

— Brian Straus (@BrianStraus) August 14, 2017

I think the two most glaring omissions are Moreno & Cherundolo.

 

You've not given us a real specific reason, other than, I surmise, cooties or something.

( a ) It's not like anyone else stepped up
( b ) It's a museum, not a blood oath
( c ) Do you want to cling to tribal bullshit or do you want our sport to have a place that celebrates its history, like the other sports do?

Who ********ing cares? Are you afraid they're going to try to indoctrinate you?

 

But, seriously, the museum business is extremely hard. This is very likely the only business model that is likely to work. Leveraging the existing infrastructure of a soccer entity. (FCD hired an exec director, but their ongoing expense will likely not be as onerous vis-a-vis Oneonta and their main revenue stream - admissions - HAS to be more robust than in Oneonta.)

But if you're not going to picket, not going to not support it, not going to look a gift horse in the mouth...then what? You're registering that you're mildly perturbed? Noted.

We cannot operate the Hall the way you think a Hall should be or like Canton or Cooperstown or Toronto. It's just not realistic. The business model of a standalone Hall cannot work.

 

actually the NSHOF in Oneonta could have worked if they stayed in their downtown location and didn't expand into a facility that was way too large for their bank account to handle.

 

The new place that opened in 1999 was overreaching. However, I don't think staying in that tiny downtown storefront would have been a good choice either. Maybe something in between.

 

actually I was thinking of the old Wilber Mansion which predates the storefront and was located just up the street...the storefront had very little charm but more or less suited the purpose I think

 

Hejduk, Cherundolo, and Lewis are among the ten players with the most USMNT caps whose most recent cap was fewer than ten years ago (including active and retired players).

 

I was disappointed that Cherundolo and Milbrett didn't make it, but I don't think that picking Hall of Famers for superficial reasons like who had the most caps is the way to go.

 

Frisco Chamber of Commerce‏ @FriscoChamber Jul 8
Seriously, can’t wait until this opens! Look at the progress made on the @soccerhof!pic.twitter.com/veNbeT56Fh